I'm against all Wars----

[Skateguy]

----and see them as the breakdown of human communication. Problems should be solved at the table. ---But, if War is unavoidable, I see no good reason why one should last more than a couple of Hours. ---we made all them things for a reason, and paid dearly to do it. Quit bluffing America, they don't believe we got the orballs.:mrgreen:

 

[idk]

Thank god you have no command over our troops or our weapons.

 

[danarhea]

----and see them as the breakdown of human communication. Problems should be solved at the table. ---But, if War is unavoidable, I see no good reason why one should last more than a couple of Hours. ---we made all them things for a reason, and paid dearly to do it. Quit bluffing America, they don't believe we got the orballs.:mrgreen:

Diplomacy is well and good, but if you believe that sitting around a table, ready to negotiate, without being willing to use a gun, should diplomacy break down, is going to work, then you are naive. And, if the rest of us were just as naive, we would all be eating fish eggs today, and drinking vodka.

 

[idk]

Diplomacy is well and good, but if you believe that sitting around a table, ready to negotiate, without being willing to use a gun, should diplomacy break down, is going to work, then you are naive. And, if the rest of us were just as naive, we would all be eating fish eggs today, and drinking vodka.

"Speak softly, but carry a big stick."

- T. Roosevelt

 

[Skateguy]

You Guys may have missed my point about if War was inevitable it should last no longer than a couple of Hours.---If I held the red button---there would be no wars.

 

[danarhea]

"Speak softly, but carry a big stick."

- T. Roosevelt

"You get farther with a gun and a kind word than you do with just a kind word."

-Al Capone

:mrgreen:

 

[idk]

You Guys may have missed my point about if War was inevitable it should last no longer than a couple of Hours.---If I held the red button---there would be no wars.

Can you detail how you would wage an inevitable war in just a few hours? Let's use our involvement in WWII, as an example.

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

"You get farther with a gun and a kind word than you do with just a kind word."

-Al Capone

You also get farther with a gun and a kind word than you do with a gun alone. Something to remember.

The thing the OP forgets is, our initial wars didn't last longer than a few days. It's the security operations afterward that have stretched for years, and the only way out of that is to commit to a course of deliberate genocide-- exterminating tens of millions of innocent people through sustained bombing campaigns or through the usage of weapons of mass destruction. The OP seems to imply that this is acceptable, but it would be political and economic suicide for our nation to employ those tactics.

 

[rathi]

You Guys may have missed my point about if War was inevitable it should last no longer than a couple of Hours.---If I held the red button---there would be no wars.

You are correct, but only because we would all be dead from a full scale nuclear war.

 

[Skateguy]

Can you detail how you would wage an inevitable war in just a few hours? Let's use our involvement in WWII, as an example.

Yes I can, but unlike our side, would never post any such details on a public forum. ---but a rough outline would be to give precise information, stating all of Our demands, in detail, to our Enemy. Then a time and place would be given, where a demonstration of Our resolve would be demonstrated. And then a further list of various targets, and the order and exact time in which they too, would be targeted. ---to prevent said exercise, complete compliance would be mandatory. and then follow that schedule exactly, and wait for the call. ---Or for the smoke to clear, either one. Child's play, taken over the play ground, and removing the bullies, so Peace can rein supreme.

 

[idk]

Yes I can, but unlike our side, would never post any such details on a public forum. ---but a rough outline would be to give precise information, stating all of Our demands, in detail, to our Enemy. Then a time and place would be given, where a demonstration of Our resolve would be demonstrated. And then a further list of various targets, and the order and exact time in which they too, would be targeted. ---to prevent said exercise, complete compliance would be mandatory. and then follow that schedule exactly, and wait for the call. ---Or for the smoke to clear, either one. Child's play, taken over the play ground, and removing the bullies, so Peace can rein supreme.

So, how many civilian casualties are you willing to sacrifice for this peace?

 

[Skateguy]

So, how many civilian casualties are you willing to sacrifice for this peace?

Just as many as it takes to get them to comply, and not one more than that. ---If their Military wants to Man up, and put on Uniforms, then fine, just target their bases. but if they chose to hide behind the Citizenry, then so be it. the People will rise up, and throw their cowardly selves out. so it's a win all the way around. ---This is why I hate War with all my heart, but if it needs to be, then go for the throat, and be done with it. Crops need to be planted.

 

[Oftencold]

War is the natural Human State. Whether armed conflict, aggression against the physical world, the eradication of disease, the travails of self mastery or spiritual conflict, war is unending for Humanity. Embrace it.

 

[Skateguy]

War is the natural Human State. Whether armed conflict, aggression against the physical world, the eradication of disease, the travails of self mastery or spiritual conflict, war is unending for Humanity. Embrace it.

Not for me. I like a Good Strato Lounger, and a remote, and a cold Beer. Wars get in the way of that.

 

[MSgt]

So, how many civilian casualties are you willing to sacrifice for this peace?

Peace, throughout history, have always been the longest only enough blood had been spilt.

 

[rathi]

I'd say that war has become rather less useful in the modern era. In the last 50 years, have many countries have actually managed to get snatch territory from another land by starting a war? Most wars have either been limited skirmishes of minor importance, or ended is loss for the attacker. Humans are too violent and stupid for war to disappear altogether, but the world is truly a different place today.

 

[Oftencold]

Not for me. I like a Good Strato Lounger, and a remote, and a cold Beer. Wars get in the way of that.

Wars provided that.

 

[spud_meister]

Just as many as it takes to get them to comply, and not one more than that. ---If their Military wants to Man up, and put on Uniforms, then fine, just target their bases. but if they chose to hide behind the Citizenry, then so be it. the People will rise up, and throw their cowardly selves out. so it's a win all the way around. ---This is why I hate War with all my heart, but if it needs to be, then go for the throat, and be done with it. Crops need to be planted.

and if i took over a building and held hostages, then executed one overy 10 minutes untill my demands were met, i would be called a terrorist, see any similarities there?

and what if they didnt negotiate, and employed MAD, then what?

 

[Skateguy]

Wars provided that.

I must respectfully disagree---the Fear of total annihilation does that. the problem is, the world has seen us blink so many times, they no longer believe we have the heart to drop the big one.---well, show them different, and they will get their butts back in line right quick. ---It's all in their heads. they don't respect, or fear us. Ya got to have one or the other.

 

[kansaswhig]

Yes I can, but unlike our side, would never post any such details on a public forum. ---but a rough outline would be to give precise information, stating all of Our demands, in detail, to our Enemy. Then a time and place would be given, where a demonstration of Our resolve would be demonstrated. And then a further list of various targets, and the order and exact time in which they too, would be targeted. ---to prevent said exercise, complete compliance would be mandatory. and then follow that schedule exactly, and wait for the call. ---Or for the smoke to clear, either one. Child's play, taken over the play ground, and removing the bullies, so Peace can rein supreme.

Wow, what a simplified view of the world.

Please read some Clausewitz. That will be a good start for you.

 

[CrusaderRabbit08]

I'm against most wars. Some are justified and the last one that was justified was WWII.

 

[rathi]

I must respectfully disagree---the Fear of total annihilation does that. the problem is, the world has seen us blink so many times, they no longer believe we have the heart to drop the big one.---well, show them different, and they will get their butts back in line right quick. ---It's all in their heads. they don't respect, or fear us. Ya got to have one or the other.

You are aware that Russia would probably completely obliterate us if we launched an unprovoked nuclear strike right? At the very least, the resulting embargo would utterly destroy our economy.

 

[Skateguy]

Wow, what a simplified view of the world.

Please read some Clausewitz. That will be a good start for you.

the world is no more simple, or complicated, as we make it. My world works fine for me, and everyone else is of course free to find their own peace, in their own time.--I'm just passin through. And I'm diggin it.

 

[Skateguy]

So, do I get to hold the "red button" or not????:mrgreen:

 

[kansaswhig]

So, do I get to hold the "red button" or not????:mrgreen:

Does the button say "troll" on it?