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I'll admit, Trump was right and I was wrong!!

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He said his followers would stick by him even if he shot someone on 5th Avenue. I thought the American People who voted for Trump would eventually get smart and see him for what he is, a stupid and uninformed but sly con man. Well, he was right, they will never turn on him. I think if he declared himself dictator they would say he should as he is doing a wonderful job. I think it is made obvious by his followers on the message board who continue to defend him as he continues to take down our democracy. Bush said he was the decider, but Trump thinks himself as the boss who can not be controlled by anyone and any thing including the courts.
 
If it was HRC that he shot on 5th Ave, DJT would have won the popular vote as well. Can you say "Landslide!"
 
He said his followers would stick by him even if he shot someone on 5th Avenue. I thought the American People who voted for Trump would eventually get smart and see him for what he is, a stupid and uninformed but sly con man. Well, he was right, they will never turn on him. I think if he declared himself dictator they would say he should as he is doing a wonderful job. I think it is made obvious by his followers on the message board who continue to defend him as he continues to take down our democracy. Bush said he was the decider, but Trump thinks himself as the boss who can not be controlled by anyone and any thing including the courts.

Four in five Americans want a special prosecutor to investigate following Comey's abrupt and unjustified firing.

President Trump has been operating under the assumption that what his supporters lack in delusion they make up for in stupidity, and they've proven him right. And while most of his supporters have stayed on course, a larger and larger proportion of those who didn't bother to vote are turning against him.
 
Sanders would have stepped in and received at leasst 56% of the vote.

I know you're not a Trump fan but, we can all imagine what it would be like to have a raging lunatic like Sanders as POTUS.

IOWs , you can't be serious. Crazy Bernie??
 
He said his followers would stick by him even if he shot someone on 5th Avenue. I thought the American People who voted for Trump would eventually get smart and see him for what he is, a stupid and uninformed but sly con man. Well, he was right, they will never turn on him. I think if he declared himself dictator they would say he should as he is doing a wonderful job. I think it is made obvious by his followers on the message board who continue to defend him as he continues to take down our democracy. Bush said he was the decider, but Trump thinks himself as the boss who can not be controlled by anyone and any thing including the courts.
I don't think many have turned on him, but I think many have turned away from him. Those people have become very quiet. They're not defending him anymore, but neither are they criticizing him. They're probably too embarrassed to do so.

His sycophantic supporters, however, keep getting more rabid by the day. Which is weird, because there's pretty much zero on which to base that level of support.
 
Four in five Americans want a special prosecutor to investigate following Comey's abrupt and unjustified firing.

President Trump has been operating under the assumption that what his supporters lack in delusion they make up for in stupidity, and they've proven him right. And while most of his supporters have stayed on course, a larger and larger proportion of those who didn't bother to vote are turning against him.

You trying to break in to the faux news production scene? 4 in 5 Americans aren't that stupid.
 
I know you're not a Trump fan but, we can all imagine what it would be like to have a raging lunatic like Sanders as POTUS.

IOWs , you can't be serious. Crazy Bernie??

It just shows that this last election we had virtually zero choice. It would be **** no matter what direction we went.
 
It just shows that this last election we had virtually zero choice. It would be **** no matter what direction we went.

But most of us felt we needed to make a choice.
 
I think the reason everyone hates him but his supporter are because you have the liberal left that group themselves together and deny anything thats not thier idea. Then you have the old school republicans that want to try and keep the status qou even thou the only reason we have a republican as president is because its Trump any other repub would have lost.
Most of you non supporters of Trump misunderstand what his supporters like about him and what they want from him. Let me enlighten you.

1. Strict on immagration, deport a whole bunch of illegals, build a wall to keep others out. (Wether or you hate deporting people or you beleive a wall wont work, his followers think it will.) Changing the visa programs to best and brightist get to come in instead of family members. A reduction of the H1B1 visa program.
2. The war on terrorism. This is mostly seen as a strong point for republicans but they like a person whos able to call the terrorism in the middle east as islamic terrorist.
3. The Drain the swamp idea. Senators and reporsenatives have made 40+ years in office and are known to be corrupt. Congress should be subject to term limits to get fresh ideas and new people into polotics. Just 100 years ago a senator only held his job for 2 years now they are in there 6 years a time.
4.MAGA idea that hire american buy from americans make things in american and negotate better trade deals. (How can of you be against that)
5. His stance on foreign wars and conflicts was more of a stay out of it aproach. Thats how this country used to be and meddeling in foreign affairs is not always in americas best intrests plus we are getting tired of the war in the middle east.
6. Obamacare, this is a republican idea for the repeal and replace. Most Trump supporters dont care one way or the other. They only care about how much they have to spend on health care and they are seeing that they are paying more and more each year for less and less coverage, so its like sure why not cuz i dont like where this is going anyways. I for example am for abolishing health insurance all together and for a municple health care tax funded single payers style system.
7. 8 years of Obama democrats, its nice to swing back to the repub side and back and forth.
8. The two party first past the post voting system in america stinks and Trump is like throwing grenandes in a china shop. Hopefully enough stuff gets broken that they change how are government operates.
9. Political Correctness and the demonizing of words, free speach, thoughts and expressions by the media and sociaty in general. Its refreshing to see someone tell it like they see it and damn whoever doesnt like it.

There are my points for why Trump is in office and not Hilary. You can disagree with all those points and disagree with all for what Trump stands for but you cant deny that the society and the country that you live in wanted this even if it was only 49% of them.
 
He said his followers would stick by him even if he shot someone on 5th Avenue. I thought the American People who voted for Trump would eventually get smart and see him for what he is, a stupid and uninformed but sly con man. Well, he was right, they will never turn on him. I think if he declared himself dictator they would say he should as he is doing a wonderful job. I think it is made obvious by his followers on the message board who continue to defend him as he continues to take down our democracy. Bush said he was the decider, but Trump thinks himself as the boss who can not be controlled by anyone and any thing including the courts.

The fundamentals of the economy are strong. Crime has dropped significantly, more and more people are happy with their lives.

American people don't need to know how its done, they just need to reap the rewards just like when you go to McDonalds you don't need to know how the big mac is made. Just enjoy the taste.

Sure, Trump's style has been unorthodox, however numbers do not lie. Trump has been a revelation.
 
I think the reason everyone hates him but his supporter are because you have the liberal left that group themselves together and deny anything thats not thier idea. Then you have the old school republicans that want to try and keep the status qou even thou the only reason we have a republican as president is because its Trump any other repub would have lost.
Most of you non supporters of Trump misunderstand what his supporters like about him and what they want from him. Let me enlighten you.

1. Strict on immagration, deport a whole bunch of illegals, build a wall to keep others out. (Wether or you hate deporting people or you beleive a wall wont work, his followers think it will.) Changing the visa programs to best and brightist get to come in instead of family members. A reduction of the H1B1 visa program.
2. The war on terrorism. This is mostly seen as a strong point for republicans but they like a person whos able to call the terrorism in the middle east as islamic terrorist.
3. The Drain the swamp idea. Senators and reporsenatives have made 40+ years in office and are known to be corrupt. Congress should be subject to term limits to get fresh ideas and new people into polotics. Just 100 years ago a senator only held his job for 2 years now they are in there 6 years a time.
4.MAGA idea that hire american buy from americans make things in american and negotate better trade deals. (How can of you be against that)
5. His stance on foreign wars and conflicts was more of a stay out of it aproach. Thats how this country used to be and meddeling in foreign affairs is not always in americas best intrests plus we are getting tired of the war in the middle east.
6. Obamacare, this is a republican idea for the repeal and replace. Most Trump supporters dont care one way or the other. They only care about how much they have to spend on health care and they are seeing that they are paying more and more each year for less and less coverage, so its like sure why not cuz i dont like where this is going anyways. I for example am for abolishing health insurance all together and for a municple health care tax funded single payers style system.
7. 8 years of Obama democrats, its nice to swing back to the repub side and back and forth.
8. The two party first past the post voting system in america stinks and Trump is like throwing grenandes in a china shop. Hopefully enough stuff gets broken that they change how are government operates.
9. Political Correctness and the demonizing of words, free speach, thoughts and expressions by the media and sociaty in general. Its refreshing to see someone tell it like they see it and damn whoever doesnt like it.

There are my points for why Trump is in office and not Hilary. You can disagree with all those points and disagree with all for what Trump stands for but you cant deny that the society and the country that you live in wanted this even if it was only 49% of them.

As opposed to the other side that wanted 8 more years of ....:eek:
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As opposed to the other side that wanted 8 more years of ....:eek:
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Ya for some reason they (dems) are having trouble understading that their vision for american is being rejected by half the country
 
Ya for some reason they (dems) are having trouble understading that their vision for american is being rejected by half the country

They will continue to deny authority until it's back in their hands. It's what they do.
 
Ya for some reason they (dems) are having trouble understanding that their vision for American is being rejected by half the country

So half the country drank the stupid-as-**** controversy-chaser-nonsense coming out of the ring wing media machine? We're supposed to accept that as OK?

The problem is, most intelligent Republicans in office, don't actually believe 90% of that right wing drivel...they just use it to gain support by appealing to baser instincts. Here comes Trump, oh ****, this guy actually drank the kook-aid! He's like everyone's old white grandpa who watches FOX news, gets all worked up, and believes that crap.

What you thought was "a rebel outsider" is just a poor stooge who got fooled by the right wing media machine. Think about it, he won the vote because of you're right half the population drinks that kool-aid. BUt notice what happened when he WON on that platform.

The lowest presidential approval in recent history.
Unable to get anyone behind anything he tries.
He contradicts himself at least 10 times a day, tweets, grants interviews that make him look like a loon, can't figure out the "optics" on any issue ever...
Just a big cluster **** that is going nowhere.

That's what happens when you actually try to implement ring wing media garbage. A bigger pile of garbage. I DO understand that, doesn't mean I'm OK with it though.
 
What conspiracy do you speak of?
Those who believe America entered the war for wealth and greed either are malignantly motivated, mentally feeble, or woefully ignorant.

The USSR did in fact enter WWII for those reasons.
 
Those who believe America entered the war for wealth and greed either are malignantly motivated, mentally feeble, or woefully ignorant.

The USSR did in fact enter WWII for those reasons.

See Operation "Barbarossa" 22JUN1941.
 
Those who believe America entered the war for wealth and greed either are malignantly motivated, mentally feeble, or woefully ignorant.

The USSR did in fact enter WWII for those reasons.

Never claimed such allegations
 
See Operation "Barbarossa" 22JUN1941.
See the USSR invasions of Romania, the Baltic nations, Finland, and Poland before Germany invaded the USSR. The Germans did not want to share with the greedy Russians.
 
If it was HRC that he shot on 5th Ave, DJT would have won the popular vote as well. Can you say "Landslide!"

Hillary Clinton has had lots of people murdered and liberals celebrate her success in doing so. Her big talking point was being "pragmatic": it's better to have a graveyard full of people who can't share a secret than one live person who can talk.
 
So half the country drank the stupid-as-**** controversy-chaser-nonsense coming out of the ring wing media machine? We're supposed to accept that as OK?

The problem is, most intelligent Republicans in office, don't actually believe 90% of that right wing drivel...they just use it to gain support by appealing to baser instincts. Here comes Trump, oh ****, this guy actually drank the kook-aid! He's like everyone's old white grandpa who watches FOX news, gets all worked up, and believes that crap.

What you thought was "a rebel outsider" is just a poor stooge who got fooled by the right wing media machine. Think about it, he won the vote because of you're right half the population drinks that kool-aid. BUt notice what happened when he WON on that platform.

The lowest presidential approval in recent history.
Unable to get anyone behind anything he tries.
He contradicts himself at least 10 times a day, tweets, grants interviews that make him look like a loon, can't figure out the "optics" on any issue ever...
Just a big cluster **** that is going nowhere.

That's what happens when you actually try to implement ring wing media garbage. A bigger pile of garbage. I DO understand that, doesn't mean I'm OK with it though.

I can say the same towards democrats ideas. The cool aid that voter fruad doesnt exsist, illegal immigrants dont use tax payers money, banning entry into usa from 6 countries is a muslim ban, women make less money then men, affrimative action and minority statuses dont discrimenate against white people. The list can go on and on which is all bull **** the lefty liberals drink the cool aid and the democrates in office continue to push those very same ideas.
 
See the USSR invasions of Romania, the Baltic nations, Finland, and Poland before Germany invaded the USSR. The Germans did not want to share with the greedy Russians.

I will look up Romania and the Baltics. Finland beat the hell out of the USSR early in WW2 and the Germans and the Russians agreed to divide Poland between the 'eagle' and the 'bear.' Better check your Romania info again. Re: the Baltic states again the eagle and the bear were in agreement. See Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact!
 
Hillary Clinton has had lots of people murdered and liberals celebrate her success in doing so. Her big talking point was being "pragmatic": it's better to have a graveyard full of people who can't share a secret than one live person who can talk.

Newbie question; Any links to HRC 'murders?'
 
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