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If it was Nazi Germany all over again, America should

  • Butt in

    Votes: 36 73.5%
  • Butt out

    Votes: 4 8.2%
  • Specifically ......

    Votes: 6 12.2%
  • No clue

    Votes: 3 6.1%

  • Total voters
    49

But you just went past-tense on me. And of course if your family sucks, you're not going to care if they are in imminent danger. I'm talking if you knew they were in danger - you'd just go "ah, well; your time was up"?

Everybody's different, so I don't know if you're incapable of doing a paradigm shift, or what. I'm not emotionally invested in what comes out of your mouth so the bolded bit is a bit presumptuous on your part.
 
So America should not have interceded in Nazi Germany? There's probably a fair amount of people who feel the same. Does it really boil down to "we don't have a dog in the fight", regardless of what atrocities are taking place?

Thats such a hard one. As human beings I feel we have an obligation to step up to the plate when we see genocide against humanity. But I dont feel its only the U.S.'s responsibility to do that. I think the entire world needs to step up and say....right is right, wrong is wrong. unfortunately that doesnt happen. I do feel we have an obligation to do something, but we as a country cant fight everyones battles, we just cant. I dont know.....
 
Does anyone today believe that Nazi Germany was not a threat to the United States? Really?
 
Does anyone today believe that Nazi Germany was not a threat to the United States?

How were they a threat? Please explain.
 
Aren't those the same people you say we should have been supporting when you say we were fighting on the wrong side in WWII?

Yes. And if my family had been Jewish, I would have supported American intervention to stop the Holocaust; if I were Tutsi, I would have supported American intervention in Rwanda. Being a Jew wouldn't change my feelings about Rwanda, and being a Tutsi wouldn't change my feelings about the Holocaust.

But you just went past-tense on me. And of course if your family sucks, you're not going to care if they are in imminent danger. I'm talking if you knew they were in danger - you'd just go "ah, well; your time was up"?

I may have misunderstood you, and if I have I apologize. I thought you were implying that if I'd lost people in the Holocaust, I'd have a different opinion about genocide in general-- that my position was only so much ignorance and white privilege. I seem to get that a lot.
 
lewstherin = a waste of time


Oh, and...

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/102104-if-14.html#post1059583941
 
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They were exterminating Jews and minorities both of which America had/has plenty of.

Where is the proof Hitler wanted to invade America?

Not to mention the taking over the world project.

Where is the proof Hitler wanted to take over the world?
 
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The "butt" implies that our involvement was wrong.
The thing that was wrong was our slow involvement.
Prevention is the answer, via the UN.
 
The so-called exaggerated numbers are imaterial...They are impossible to measure due to the Holocaust level of the event..
 
Where is the proof Hitler wanted to invade America?



Where is the proof Hitler wanted to take over the world?

He wanted to kill all the Jews, had he stayed in power he would have attempted to invade America.
 
No vote
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The "butt" implies that our involvement was wrong.
The thing that was wrong was our slow involvement.
Prevention is the answer, via the UN.

No it doesn't. It's a slang term. If I'd said "get involved" or "remain uninvolved", how would you have voted.
 
i never said any of that. i already acknowledged there WAS a holocaust. all i stated was that the
numbers were exaggerated. now...you wanna lie a few more times to prove your non-existent point?

Reading Comprehension. Work on it. I said:

"I assume that you are only questioning the numbers and not if the Holocaust actually took place, right?"

AND

"You are basically saying, 'Damn, that is a lot of people to kill in a short amount of time with such small facilities. It has to be false. Oh, you think that it is true, well, I will offer no proof and call you insane instead, so there!'"

Care to address that instead?

Can you actually provide any numbers with facts or is this the best you got?
 
If events were unfolding in a foreign land exactly as they unfolded in Nazi Germany, what would you recommend?

[SARCASM]Well, seeing as I am a pinko-liberal-commi-socialist-nazi-bleeding heart pig, I would recommend that we help them implement their fascist system of government with as much IMF money as possible.[/SARCASM]
 

well....ummmmm...it takes 2 and 1/2 hours to cremate a single human body. there were 3 ovens at auschwitz designed
to hold 2 people at at time. you do the math, genius.
 
well....ummmmm...it takes 2 and 1/2 hours to cremate a single human body. there were 3 ovens at auschwitz designed
to hold 2 people at at time. you do the math, genius.

Designed to hold 2 (two) people at a time? Where did you get that little datum?
 
Designed to hold 2 (two) people at a time? Where did you get that little datum?

sorry. different links say things, probably on different camps. these were designed to hold 3 at a time, and there were more
than 2. looks to be 5. even so....the math will NEVER add up to anything close to a million.

 
This one appears to have been built to hold more than two or three at a time:

 
This one appears to have been built to hold more than two or three at a time:


It's no kind of logical to only kill 2-3 at a time. There were too many scheduled for death.
 
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So America should not have interceded in Nazi Germany? There's probably a fair amount of people who feel the same. Does it really boil down to "we don't have a dog in the fight", regardless of what atrocities are taking place?

We didn't intercede in Nazi Germany. Americans didn't give a flying crap about the camps. We knew there were camps. We knew people were being murdered in masses. Franklin Roosevelt's assistant secretary of state denied entry to Jewish refuges. The Germans actually offered Jews to the western Allies. We declined apart from Canada taking a few thousand. We got involved because they declared war on us.

Also don't forget Henry Ford and his international Jewry pamphlets in every new car.

And is someone in this thread really denying the holocaust ever occurred? Read the minutes of the Wansee conference please.

Don't forget Hitler's quote about the Evian conference:
 
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