If Viruses Do Not Exist As Claimed, What Are Vaccines For? (1 Viewer)

[Contumacious]

The notion that viruses are the primary cause of many diseases has been a cornerstone of modern medicine for over a century. However, a growing body of research suggests that this paradigm may be fundamentally flawed. Dr. Mark Bailey’s seminal paper, “A Farewell to Virology,” (2022) and the work of Dr. Sam Bailey, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, and Dr. Tom Cowan, have collectively challenged the conventional wisdom on viruses and vaccines.

Their research posits that viruses do not exist as disease-causing entities, but rather as misidentified cellular components and other biological phenomena. This idea is not new and builds on the pioneering work of former virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka and The Perth Group. However, it has gained significant traction in recent years, largely because of the COVID-19 scamdemic. The implications of this theory are profound, and they raise a crucial question: if viruses do not exist as claimed, what are we vaccinating against?

The vaccine schedules that govern our lives are based on the assumption that viruses are real and pose a significant threat to public health. However, if this assumption is incorrect, then the justification for vaccines crumbles. Are we simply creating a future dependent clientele for pharmaceutical companies?

If Viruses Do Not Exist As Claimed, What Are Vaccines For? - NZ Loyal

The notion that viruses are the primary cause of many diseases has been a cornerstone of modern medicine for over a century. However, a growing body of research suggests that this paradigm may be fundamentally flawed. Dr. Mark Bailey’s seminal paper, “A Farewell to Virology,” (2022) and the work...

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[Phys251]

The notion that viruses are the primary cause of many diseases has been a cornerstone of modern medicine for over a century. However, a growing body of research suggests that this paradigm may be fundamentally flawed. Dr. Mark Bailey’s seminal paper, “A Farewell to Virology,” (2022) and the work of Dr. Sam Bailey, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, and Dr. Tom Cowan, have collectively challenged the conventional wisdom on viruses and vaccines.

Their research posits that viruses do not exist as disease-causing entities, but rather as misidentified cellular components and other biological phenomena. This idea is not new and builds on the pioneering work of former virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka and The Perth Group. However, it has gained significant traction in recent years, largely because of the COVID-19 scamdemic. The implications of this theory are profound, and they raise a crucial question: if viruses do not exist as claimed, what are we vaccinating against?

The vaccine schedules that govern our lives are based on the assumption that viruses are real and pose a significant threat to public health. However, if this assumption is incorrect, then the justification for vaccines crumbles. Are we simply creating a future dependent clientele for pharmaceutical companies?

If Viruses Do Not Exist As Claimed, What Are Vaccines For? - NZ Loyal

The notion that viruses are the primary cause of many diseases has been a cornerstone of modern medicine for over a century. However, a growing body of research suggests that this paradigm may be fundamentally flawed. Dr. Mark Bailey’s seminal paper, “A Farewell to Virology,” (2022) and the work...

nzloyal.com

Ever heard of smallpox, measles, and SARS-CoV-2? Those are just a handful of viruses that can be catastrophic without a vaccine. Maybe you want us all to get sick?

 

[Lycanthrope]

Belongs in Conspiracy Theories, but honestly even CT would be insulted.

Christ - Donald has unfettered and emboldened a level of stupid in America not seen since...well, ever.

 

[Allan]

Belongs in Conspiracy Theories, but honestly even CT would be insulted.

Mark Bailey's wife is also a quack and is being investigated for posting misleading medical information.

Christ - Donald has unfettered and emboldened a level of stupid in America not seen since...well, ever.

They were always out there. Now they impact policy.

 

[Pyrite]

The notion that viruses are the primary cause of many diseases has been a cornerstone of modern medicine for over a century. However, a growing body of research suggests that this paradigm may be fundamentally flawed. Dr. Mark Bailey’s seminal paper, “A Farewell to Virology,” (2022) and the work of Dr. Sam Bailey, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, and Dr. Tom Cowan, have collectively challenged the conventional wisdom on viruses and vaccines.

Their research posits that viruses do not exist as disease-causing entities, but rather as misidentified cellular components and other biological phenomena. This idea is not new and builds on the pioneering work of former virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka and The Perth Group. However, it has gained significant traction in recent years, largely because of the COVID-19 scamdemic. The implications of this theory are profound, and they raise a crucial question: if viruses do not exist as claimed, what are we vaccinating against?

The vaccine schedules that govern our lives are based on the assumption that viruses are real and pose a significant threat to public health. However, if this assumption is incorrect, then the justification for vaccines crumbles. Are we simply creating a future dependent clientele for pharmaceutical companies?

If Viruses Do Not Exist As Claimed, What Are Vaccines For? - NZ Loyal

The notion that viruses are the primary cause of many diseases has been a cornerstone of modern medicine for over a century. However, a growing body of research suggests that this paradigm may be fundamentally flawed. Dr. Mark Bailey’s seminal paper, “A Farewell to Virology,” (2022) and the work...

nzloyal.com

NZ Loyal is a political party, not a science journal.

This evening, at dinner, I was talking to a grandkid about what she's learning in science class: the basic components of cells. So, I'm interested in what specific "misidentified cellular components" the NZ Loyal political party believes the scientific world has wrongly identified as viruses?

 

[Lycanthrope]

Mark Bailey's wife is also a quack and is being investigated for posting misleading medical information.

They were always out there. Now they impact policy.

There was a time not too long ago when these sorts were rightfully satirized. Now one third of Muricans munch horse dewormer and regard RFK Jr as a health and wellness sage.

 

[Grand Mal]

The notion that viruses are the primary cause of many diseases has been a cornerstone of modern medicine for over a century. However, a growing body of research suggests that this paradigm may be fundamentally flawed. Dr. Mark Bailey’s seminal paper, “A Farewell to Virology,” (2022) and the work of Dr. Sam Bailey, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, and Dr. Tom Cowan, have collectively challenged the conventional wisdom on viruses and vaccines.

Their research posits that viruses do not exist as disease-causing entities, but rather as misidentified cellular components and other biological phenomena. This idea is not new and builds on the pioneering work of former virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka and The Perth Group. However, it has gained significant traction in recent years, largely because of the COVID-19 scamdemic. The implications of this theory are profound, and they raise a crucial question: if viruses do not exist as claimed, what are we vaccinating against?

The vaccine schedules that govern our lives are based on the assumption that viruses are real and pose a significant threat to public health. However, if this assumption is incorrect, then the justification for vaccines crumbles. Are we simply creating a future dependent clientele for pharmaceutical companies?

If Viruses Do Not Exist As Claimed, What Are Vaccines For? - NZ Loyal

The notion that viruses are the primary cause of many diseases has been a cornerstone of modern medicine for over a century. However, a growing body of research suggests that this paradigm may be fundamentally flawed. Dr. Mark Bailey’s seminal paper, “A Farewell to Virology,” (2022) and the work...

nzloyal.com

Anyone who claims viri don't exist is a dumbass attention-seeking twerp.

 

[Contumacious]

Ever heard of smallpox, measles, and SARS-CoV-2? Those are just a handful of viruses that can be catastrophic without a vaccine. Maybe you want us all to get sick?

PATHOGENS must be SCIENTIFICALLY ISOLATED AND IDENTIFIED using Koch's Postulates

Koch’s Postulates: Germ School Dropout

drsambailey.com

The definition of VIRUSES was POISON OR TOXINS

a substance may make us sick or kill us even though they are not a pathogen , ie n ot a bacteria or a fungus

 

[The Mark]

The notion that viruses are the primary cause of many diseases has been a cornerstone of modern medicine for over a century. However, a growing body of research suggests that this paradigm may be fundamentally flawed. Dr. Mark Bailey’s seminal paper, “A Farewell to Virology,” (2022) and the work of Dr. Sam Bailey, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, and Dr. Tom Cowan, have collectively challenged the conventional wisdom on viruses and vaccines.

Their research posits that viruses do not exist as disease-causing entities, but rather as misidentified cellular components and other biological phenomena. This idea is not new and builds on the pioneering work of former virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka and The Perth Group. However, it has gained significant traction in recent years, largely because of the COVID-19 scamdemic. The implications of this theory are profound, and they raise a crucial question: if viruses do not exist as claimed, what are we vaccinating against?

The vaccine schedules that govern our lives are based on the assumption that viruses are real and pose a significant threat to public health. However, if this assumption is incorrect, then the justification for vaccines crumbles. Are we simply creating a future dependent clientele for pharmaceutical companies?

If Viruses Do Not Exist As Claimed, What Are Vaccines For? - NZ Loyal

The notion that viruses are the primary cause of many diseases has been a cornerstone of modern medicine for over a century. However, a growing body of research suggests that this paradigm may be fundamentally flawed. Dr. Mark Bailey’s seminal paper, “A Farewell to Virology,” (2022) and the work...

nzloyal.com

If viruses don't exist and vaccines don't work, then how the hell did various vaccines effectively end various communicable diseases - at least temporarily, until people started not getting vaccinated again.

 

[Pyrite]

If viruses don't exist and vaccines don't work, then how the hell did various vaccines effectively end various communicable diseases - at least temporarily, until people started not getting vaccinated again.

Ooops....

 

[Contumacious]

Belongs in Conspiracy Theories, but honestly even CT would be insulted.

Christ - Donald has unfettered and emboldened a level of stupid in America not seen since...well, ever.

I understand that those who lack CRITICAL THINKING , LaLaLanders who are naive and gullible will find the topic challenging,

to those individuals I say STOP - just go get another CONVID booster

 

[Pyrite]

I understand that those who lack CRITICAL THINKING , LaLaLanders who are naive and gullible will find the topic challenging,

to those individuals I say STOP - just go get another CONVID booster

Critical thinking doesn't seem to be what you and the OP are using.

But, hey, why don't you show us how "critical thinking" helps you answer the question I posed (Post #5):

What are the specific "misidentified cellular components" the NZ Loyal political party believes the scientific world has wrongly identified as viruses?

 

[Jessie C]

The New Zealand Loyal Party, also known as NZ Loyal, was a far-right, conspiracist political party in New Zealand.[1] It was founded in June 2023 by anti-vaccination activist, and ex-TVNZ news presenter, Liz Gunn

Enough said.

 

[Contumacious]

There was a time not too long ago when these sorts were rightfully satirized. Now one third of Muricans munch horse dewormer and regard RFK Jr as a health and wellness sage.

Prior to 2020 the concept of having a viral infection was not a bif deal

But the CIA , DOD and the powers that be found out they could easily paralize a nation and force individuals to follow their guidelines by fearmonguering and claimig that the "virus" is deadly

In 2007 VP Cheney made Fauci a DOD employee responsible for "vaccine research" thereby circumventing BioWarfare Laws. That made Fauci the highest paid federal employee.

Fauci co-owned the Moderna "covid19 patent" In 2019 Moderna was in dire financial straits, After the CONVID19 revelation Moderna was raking in bazillios and Fauci was collection a gazillion $$$$ in royalties.

Hence those of us who want to be alive and free must place "virology" under a microscope.

 

[Pyrite]

The New Zealand Loyal Party, also known as NZ Loyal, was a far-right, conspiracist political party in New Zealand.[1] It was founded in June 2023 by anti-vaccination activist, and ex-TVNZ news presenter, Liz Gunn

Enough said.

If you're anti-vax, I guess pretending that viruses don't exist is helpful....

 

[Allan]

The definition of VIRUSES was POISON OR TOXINS

Viruses have never been referred to as poisons or toxins. Viruses, poisons and toxins are three completely different things.

You should have learned this in grade school biology.

 

[Pyrite]

Prior to 2020 the concept of having a viral infection was not a bif deal

But the CIA , DOD and the powers that be found out they could easily paralize a nation and force individuals to follow their guidelines by fearmonguering and claimig that the "virus" is deadly

In 2007 VP Cheney made Fauci a DOD employee responsible for "vaccine research" thereby circumventing BioWarfare Laws. That made Fauci the highest paid federal employee.

Fauci co-owned the Moderna "covid19 patent" In 2019 Moderna was in dire financial straits, After the CONVID19 revelation Moderna was raking in bazillios and Fauci was collection a gazillion $$$$ in royalties.

Hence those of us who want to be alive and free must place "virology" under a microscope.

Where did you read this:

Fauci co-owned the Moderna "covid19 patent" In 2019 Moderna was in dire financial straits, After the CONVID19 revelation Moderna was raking in bazillios and Fauci was collection a gazillion $$$$ in royalties.

Zerohedge? Conservativetreehouse? Iamanidiotforbelievingthispreposterousshit?

It's malarkey, of course. It's not true. BUT if you want to try to prove it is true, go for it: copies and pastes of excerpts from credible sources to which you post the links.


IN THE MEANTIME, you still haven't answered the question I asked, which is based on your OP;

What are the specific "misidentified cellular components" the NZ Loyal political party believes the scientific world has wrongly identified as viruses?

 

[Allan]

I see this has been moved to the proper forum. Thanks mods.

 

[RogueWarrior]

unless a scientist publishes their findings, experiments and test results in a reputable, pier-reviewed scientific journal, then it is just their opinion. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink. (RFK Jr has great opinions...)

 

[Pyrite]

unless a scientist publishes their findings, experiments and test results in a reputable, pier-reviewed scientific journal, then it is just their opinion. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink. (RFK Jr has great opinions...)

Post #19


Yep. Too bad some MAGA members don't know this. Or care about it.

 

[Loulit01]

Smallpox is thought to be completely eradicated. Once thought to have been caused by viruses, it is now known that smallpox was caused by giving people the evil eye combined with the first two fingers of the right hand being pointed at the intended victim and given a quick thrust while emitting a grunt.

The cure for smallpox is poking your index finger into your bicep while shouting, "Cootie shot! Cootie shot!"

 

[Lursa]

The notion that viruses are the primary cause of many diseases has been a cornerstone of modern medicine for over a century. However, a growing body of research suggests that this paradigm may be fundamentally flawed. Dr. Mark Bailey’s seminal paper, “A Farewell to Virology,” (2022) and the work of Dr. Sam Bailey, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, and Dr. Tom Cowan, have collectively challenged the conventional wisdom on viruses and vaccines.

Their research posits that viruses do not exist as disease-causing entities, but rather as misidentified cellular components and other biological phenomena. This idea is not new and builds on the pioneering work of former virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka and The Perth Group. However, it has gained significant traction in recent years, largely because of the COVID-19 scamdemic. The implications of this theory are profound, and they raise a crucial question: if viruses do not exist as claimed, what are we vaccinating against?

The vaccine schedules that govern our lives are based on the assumption that viruses are real and pose a significant threat to public health. However, if this assumption is incorrect, then the justification for vaccines crumbles. Are we simply creating a future dependent clientele for pharmaceutical companies?

If Viruses Do Not Exist As Claimed, What Are Vaccines For? - NZ Loyal

The notion that viruses are the primary cause of many diseases has been a cornerstone of modern medicine for over a century. However, a growing body of research suggests that this paradigm may be fundamentally flawed. Dr. Mark Bailey’s seminal paper, “A Farewell to Virology,” (2022) and the work...

nzloyal.com

What do they say causes the diseases we consider "viral diseases" now?

Things like influenza, polio, yellow fever, herpes, measles, hepatitis, etc etc etc?

 

[Lursa]

PATHOGENS must be SCIENTIFICALLY ISOLATED AND IDENTIFIED using Koch's Postulates

Koch’s Postulates: Germ School Dropout

drsambailey.com

The definition of VIRUSES was POISON OR TOXINS

a substance may make us sick or kill us even though they are not a pathogen , ie n ot a bacteria or a fungus

Koch's Posulates were published in the 1800s and only slightly more advanced than believing disease was caused by vapors in the night air.

There's a difference between something making you sick (poison is an example) and something causing disease (pathogen).

The current definitions of virus, poison, and toxin are all available to you...did you do further research and look them up?

 

[Jessie C]

PATHOGENS must be SCIENTIFICALLY ISOLATED AND IDENTIFIED using Koch's Postulates

Koch’s Postulates: Germ School Dropout

drsambailey.com

The definition of VIRUSES was POISON OR TOXINS

a substance may make us sick or kill us even though they are not a pathogen , ie n ot a bacteria or a fungus

It's very obvious you have no background in the medical field. We are not in 1884 anymore, medical science has come a LONG way. Please claw your way into the current century which is WAY more advanced.....

 

[Lycanthrope]

I understand that those who lack CRITICAL THINKING , LaLaLanders who are naive and gullible will find the topic challenging,

to those individuals I say STOP - just go get another CONVID booster

Yes, that's what you' re doing here - CRITICAL THINKING.