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Illegal aliens are still immigrants. The thread title says "if immigrants terrify you" so that covers legal and illegal immigrants. And I was explaining which part of the immigrant population is no good for our economy. Yes, most of them being illegal.
Regulated, legal immigration based upon the needs of the country, yes.
Unregulated, illegal, mass immigration, no. That mostly causes problems.
According to federal statue, to be an immigrant you must posses a immigration visa and have been issued a "green card." It's the law.
BTW: All non citizens are aliens. There are legal aliens who have either a valid tourist, student, business, diplomatic or immigrant visa and those who haven't been issued one of the later who are illegal aliens.
Either your a legal alien, illegal alien or an American citizen.
What I have noticed that there are those who are so scared of illegal aliens that they call them immigrants.
(1) How do you know "the needs of the country"? You have a crystal ball that tells you how many computer programmers or housemaids Country X will need five, ten, twenty years from now? What's wrong with "unregulated" migration of people eager to work, according to the old good market supply and demand?
(2) For better or worse, this is a USA-centric forum. When most people here talk about "immigration", they don't think about a Polish scientist, an English journalist, or even a Vietnamese shrimper boat captain. This is, primarily, about the mass immigration of Mexicans into the US of A, legal and "illegal". Now, anything "mass" will always come with plenty of negatives, but it is crucial that outsiders (Europeans, e.g.) understand: We are not talking about boatloads of bewildered, culturally alien war refugees, or some other artificial influx of people incompatible with our society: this "mass immigration" was requested, demanded, facilitated by our own, American society. They come here to work, and we do need this work done. We do need these people, period. And they do need us. What on Earth is wrong with that?
(1) It is very easy to know what the country needs in terms of satisfying the labor market. The UK needs doctors. Why? Because they look at the number of doctors in the country (you know that they are doctors because when they pay taxes on income, their income and profession and where they work is listed) and look at the number of people graduating med school, finishing their 3years residency and then they look at the total number of people needed to fill all the medical needs of people... and they deduce if that number is satisfied or, as in the case of the UK, it isn't.
You can't look at everything, of course, like housemaids. But then again, those aren't jobs that are crucial the growth of the economy.
You can also look at trends in the labor market.
If you look at this: Illegal Immigrant Unemployment Rate at 10% of Estimated 11.1 Million - Topeka Government | Examiner.com
speculations are that 10% or more are unemployed. Now of course, you can never know that for sure.
And what do the people who are unemployed do? They become radicalized and join La Raza and other gangs that do drugs and kill people.
So.... mass immigration is not going to fill in the work slots that "we need the work done".
Video @: If Immigrants Terrify You, Then Here's 3 Simple Facts To Calm Your Frightened Brain
Pretty everything we have learned about immigration is pretty much just a bunch of BS. Immigration doesnt hurt the "governments" social services, it also helps grow the economy, and they are also needed to help create a strong and better economy. [/FONT][/COLOR]
Illegal aliens are still immigrants. The thread title says "if immigrants terrify you" so that covers legal and illegal immigrants. And I was explaining which part of the immigrant population is no good for our economy. Yes, most of them being illegal.
To keep illegal American immigrants from flooding their country and taking over their Cartels?
Originally Posted by ecofarm
There must be some reason Mexico has landmines on its southern border. What could it be?
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