They almost got to the root of the issue which i believe why Trump would have ultimately loss that issue The root issue would have came down to slave labor had they continued.
Trump said he would increase tariffs on imports in order to get, lets say China, to behave.
Cruz responds that would be a tax on the American people as the cost would just get passed to US citizens.
Trump responded saying, "no what would happen is if they don't behave then we will build factories here and produce our own products."
He gets large applause and the moderators moved on.
China has over a billion people and many of the ones who make our products are working in slave like conditions, i remember seeing a documentary of a factory that had suicide nets surrounding the building because people would jump out of windows from time to time.
They would have to address slave labor in order to properly discuss trade deals and tariffs.
Our throw away society would drastically change if we start building things here and the prices of electronics jump up astronomically.
Yes? Amiright?
Actually...Trump is right.
Only thing he has to figure out is how to get American workers to accept 65 cents an hour as a wage...and all those jobs we've lost to China will come back here in a trice.
Americans are so materialistic, though. They want to earn more than 65 cents an hour.
I'm sure Donald Trump, with all his business experience, should be able to figure out how to reason with them...and make sanity prevail in this country once again.
Don'tcha think?
I also thought that was the most interesting part of the debate and wished it would have continued.
I am no fan of Cruz but it almost made me like him. Besides lower prices from free trade that benefit consumers a lot of people do not realize cheaper prices further creates new jobs. For example if a Japanese tv costs $400 less than an American made one, the American consumer has $400 more to spend on something else.Maybe they use these savings to buy an American made lawnmower to go with the tv. Without these savings maybe the lawnmower manufacturer doesn't exist and the American consumer is stuck with a lower quality higher cost TV and no lawnmower. Multiply that by billions of transactions and you can begin to see how free trade makes nations wealthier.The smart thing policy wise to do is not have trade wars and tarrifs but eliminate all taxes direct and indirect on corporations and business including companies having to provide employee health insurance and drastically lower companies accounting and legal fees through much smarter tax and regulation policy. No one wants to have low employee slave type salaries so if we were smart and taxed dividends and owner salaries and eliminate the other business costs, U.S. companies would be way more competive even with higher employee salaries. There would be other advantages for the U.S. compared to Third world slave labor like good infrastructure, good financial system, rule of law, safety, liw shipping costs being in a huge market, wide array of emoloyee skill sets available. Do the changed above and I'm confident we'd have no high paying job problem but a surplus. Going the tariff no free trade route may put us in a depression or at least lower living standards imho.
Yeah and the Mayans cut down the rainforest and eliminated much of their future water supply. Point being there is many unintended consequences to protectionism. Maybe I'm the only blue collar guy that supports free trade but I've taken econ 101. If you think of it in the most simple terms, a trade that is completely transparent for both sides, is not done unless both sides benefit. Freedom. My strategy is just stop giving U.S. companies such a disadvantage with such huge costs because of stupid tax and regulatory codes(and the added costs of providing employee health insurance). Take these added costs away from American products and we'd kill it on exports and having tons of high paying blue collar jobs. Its easy math. Instead of American companies selling to only like 5% of the world market, it opens up to hundreds of millions of more consumers. If we do that and make sure all countries involved in free trade agreements play by the rules, its win win. Then maybe after everyone figures out materialism doesn't lead to happiness and that the word Mormon means love established forever in Egyptian, not by coincidence, we can all freely adopt a higher economic order-the law of consecration. Oh yeah [emoji111]A cheaper TV, while you live on the street, or live on the street and work a PT min wage job
is a recipe for ................
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We have listened to your free trade lies for 30 years.
The result is here.
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You will note the "Free Trade" cartoon is from the 1980's.
TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah and the Mayans cut down the rainforest and eliminated much of their future water supply. Point being there is many unintended consequences to protectionism. Maybe I'm the only blue collar guy that supports free trade but I've taken econ 101. If you think of it in the most simple terms, a trade that is completely transparent for both sides, is not done unless both sides benefit. Freedom. My strategy is just stop giving U.S. companies such a disadvantage with such huge costs because of stupid tax and regulatory codes(and the added costs of providing employee health insurance). Take these added costs away from American products and we'd kill it on exports and having tons of high paying blue collar jobs. Its easy math. Instead of American companies selling to only like 5% of the world market, it opens up to hundreds of millions of more consumers. If we do that and make sure all countries involved in free trade agreements play by the rules, its win win. Then maybe after everyone figures out materialism doesn't lead to happiness and that the word Mormon means love established forever in Egyptian, not by coincidence, we can all freely adopt a higher economic order-the law of consecration. Oh yeah [emoji111]
Well if you attack job creation with high governmental costs a business may have the only choice of paying workers slave labor or closing. Under my plan I favor raising minimum wage to say $15/hr which a business is more likely able to do if they have lower costs in taxes, insurance, accounting, and legal fees.So your solution is to give corporations greater tax breaks...and fewer regulations.
My way is better...and gets to same point easier.
Just get the greedy American workers to work for 65 cent an hour...and we not only get all the jobs we've lost back, we'd probably get job orders coming in from Bangladesh.
Simplest solution I can come up with.
Yeah and the Mayans cut down the rainforest and eliminated much of their future water supply. Point being there is many unintended consequences to protectionism. Maybe I'm the only blue collar guy that supports free trade but I've taken econ 101. If you think of it in the most simple terms, a trade that is completely transparent for both sides, is not done unless both sides benefit. Freedom. My strategy is just stop giving U.S. companies such a disadvantage with such huge costs because of stupid tax and regulatory codes(and the added costs of providing employee health insurance). Take these added costs away from American products and we'd kill it on exports and having tons of high paying blue collar jobs. Its easy math. Instead of American companies selling to only like 5% of the world market, it opens up to hundreds of millions of more consumers. If we do that and make sure all countries involved in free trade agreements play by the rules, its win win. Then maybe after everyone figures out materialism doesn't lead to happiness and that the word Mormon means love established forever in Egyptian, not by coincidence, we can all freely adopt a higher economic order-the law of consecration. Oh yeah [emoji111]
They almost got to the root of the issue which i believe why Trump would have ultimately loss that issue The root issue would have came down to slave labor had they continued.
Trump said he would increase tariffs on imports in order to get, lets say China, to behave.
Cruz responds that would be a tax on the American people as the cost would just get passed to US citizens.
Trump responded saying, "no what would happen is if they don't behave then we will build factories here and produce our own products."
He gets large applause and the moderators moved on.
China has over a billion people and many of the ones who make our products are working in slave like conditions, i remember seeing a documentary of a factory that had suicide nets surrounding the building because people would jump out of windows from time to time.
They would have to address slave labor in order to properly discuss trade deals and tariffs.
Our throw away society would drastically change if we start building things here and the prices of electronics jump up astronomically.
Yes? Amiright?
They almost got to the root of the issue which i believe why Trump would have ultimately loss that issue The root issue would have came down to slave labor had they continued.
Trump said he would increase tariffs on imports in order to get, lets say China, to behave.
Cruz responds that would be a tax on the American people as the cost would just get passed to US citizens.
Trump responded saying, "no what would happen is if they don't behave then we will build factories here and produce our own products."
He gets large applause and the moderators moved on.
China has over a billion people and many of the ones who make our products are working in slave like conditions, i remember seeing a documentary of a factory that had suicide nets surrounding the building because people would jump out of windows from time to time.
They would have to address slave labor in order to properly discuss trade deals and tariffs.
Our throw away society would drastically change if we start building things here and the prices of electronics jump up astronomically.
Yes? Amiright?
Another unintended consequence of a high tariff on Chinese made products is that U.S. consumers because of higher prices they will have less money and this will have an effect on them buying the products they had been buying that are American made. In this way it will cost U.S. jobs.
As a consumer it's not so bad if someone wants to sell you something at a lower cost. I'd rather be an American who can watch a movie or listen to music from anywhere than be a Chinese citizen and have to listen to say Chinese rap or metal. We have a higher living standard, cleaner air and water, can have as many kids that we want. Freedom not so bad.
I don't care how China treats their citizens. If China wants slavery then it's up to the Chinese citizens to do something about it.
What lol? I'm sure the slaves don't want slavery.
Prices haven't gone down as a result of Free Trade as it is...The American dollar isn't buying more products and it isn't going further. There hasn't been some huge decrease in products as a result of all this cheap labor. It's just the American people getting fleeced.
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