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I was fired from my internship for writing a proposal for a more flexible dress code
I was fired from my internship for writing a proposal for a more flexible dress code — Ask a Manager
Several thoughts...1) She wanted experience. She got the best possible experience she could have ever hoped for. It's an internship. Learn from it and move on. 2) They pushed the petition too far. Asked for too much. Shouldn't have done a petition in the first place, but it's clear they got all giddy with their perceived power through unity and took it too far. 3) Any rational person knows you don't start demanding right after you start a new job. You wait until you figure out the culture. 4) Personally, I would have just started wearing non-leather shoes. It's not uncommon to get away with minor things as long as you don't bring attention to it. 5) JMO, but sandals of any kind, no matter how nice or expensive, are NOT professional for an office environment. 6) This is the product of an unwarranted and overly-entitled younger generation brought to us by helicopter parents and misguided colleges.
Several thoughts...
1) She wanted experience. She got the best possible experience she could have ever hoped for. It's an internship. Learn from it and move on.
2) They pushed the petition too far. Asked for too much. Shouldn't have done a petition in the first place, but it's clear they got all giddy with their perceived power through unity and took it too far.
3) Any rational person knows you don't start demanding right after you start a new job. You wait until you figure out the culture.
4) Personally, I would have just started wearing non-leather shoes. It's not uncommon to get away with minor things as long as you don't bring attention to it.
5) JMO, but sandals of any kind, no matter how nice or expensive, are NOT professional for an office environment.
6) This is the product of an unwarranted and overly-entitled younger generation brought to us by helicopter parents and misguided colleges.
I believe the company really overreacted, it is understandable that non-public facing employees would want to wear more business casual attire. If that is how the company acts towards proposals for the dress code it seems like a pretty toxic work culture. A sign of a poorly managed company.
I was fired from my internship for writing a proposal for a more flexible dress code — Ask a ManagerThe fact that they did fire all of you for it makes me wonder if there were other issues too and this pushed them over the edge. Were you getting good feedback before this, or had you noticed your manager trying to rein you in on other things? If there were other issues, I can more easily understand them just throwing up their hands and being finished with the whole thing.
I believe the company really overreacted, it is understandable that non-public facing employees would want to wear more business casual attire. If that is how the company acts towards proposals for the dress code it seems like a pretty toxic work culture. A sign of a poorly managed company.
Yeah, my point #1 was my strongest point. She wanted to learn, and wow did she get a lesson... if she's willing.All except for #6, I strongly agree. Sometimes getting fired is indeed the best lesson one can get...if one is willing to learn, that is.
Yeah, my point #1 was my strongest point. She wanted to learn, and wow did she get a lesson... if she's willing.
Not much point in judging this person for doing what she felt is right. She probably put effort into her writeup. Good for her, and too bad it didn't work out. A proposal is just that, a proposal, not a demand.
The sweeping generalizations about the younger generation are out of line.
Very poor generalization and the slap at management a leap at bare minimum.I believe the company really overreacted, it is understandable that non-public facing employees would want to wear more business casual attire. If that is how the company acts towards proposals for the dress code it seems like a pretty toxic work culture. A sign of a poorly managed company.
This reminds me of an old Japanese story. A young man on his way to a job interview encounters a pregnant woman in labor and with no other help in sight he stops to provide assistance. As a result he is late to his interview and because he was unable to let the employer know he would be late he does not get the job. When his friends later ask him why he simply did not explain what had happened, his response was, "I would never want to work for a company that could accept such an excuse."
I think there is something to be said not just of the standard employers have of employees but also the standard a good employee would have for an employer. When you think in terms of what kind of standards you would like a company to keep instead of how it could suit your own comfort, you get an entirety different perspective. A company that does not mind if you are an hour late to work seems great until you have plans but have to wait an extra hour for a late coworker to take over the next shift. The company that allows you to dress in sweats and slippers seems cool until you realize it is going under due to losing customers to companies with professionally dressed staff. The best employees want to work at the companies with the best standards.
They aren't.... It's well earned... This generation is horrible, I am one, I would know. Baby Boomers are horrible... Generation X was good. Hopefully our kids will complete the cycle back to sanity. It's weird, it seems like the bad generations make for the best parents.
Very poor generalization and the slap at management a leap at bare minimum.
Oftentimes professional attire is used to create a more professional atmosphere. Forbes Welcome
The same culture that calls their employers during a natural disaster before they even call their own families. What an awful story. I've lived in Japan and I would never in a million years model the rest of the world on their work ethic. It's completely insane and devoid of human compassion and human reality.
That's true, but some companies also have a culture of cruelty, like in the corporate world, especially toward women, and ESPECIALLY toward women who are upstarts.
I value your story but this company totally overreacted, and the conclusions that commentators are making about arrogance, overstepping, and generational trends are just so over the top.
On the one hand the younger generation are called privileged slackers who never have ambition, drive, or stand up for anything. Then someone stands up for something, in a manner that isn't really all that outrageous if you think about it, and people are saying she should know her place. Which is it???
Several thoughts...
1) She wanted experience. She got the best possible experience she could have ever hoped for. It's an internship. Learn from it and move on.
2) They pushed the petition too far. Asked for too much. Shouldn't have done a petition in the first place, but it's clear they got all giddy with their perceived power through unity and took it too far.
3) Any rational person knows you don't start demanding right after you start a new job. You wait until you figure out the culture.
4) Personally, I would have just started wearing non-leather shoes. It's not uncommon to get away with minor things as long as you don't bring attention to it.
5) JMO, but sandals of any kind, no matter how nice or expensive, are NOT professional for an office environment.
6) This is the product of an unwarranted and overly-entitled younger generation brought to us by helicopter parents and misguided colleges.
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