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I don't understand why Martin supporters and race baiter's feel it's necessary to make false comparisons and lie, when doing so makes both the country, as well as our judicial system look bad?
If you don't know what I'm talking about, then this photo that my liberal aunt posted on her Facebook page should explain it perfectly.
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Obviously that picture attempts to portrait the Zimmerman verdict as one that was based on race, to paint the judicial system as racially biased, and to imply that the "stand your ground" law is one that only benefits people who aren't black. There's just one problem with that picture though... it's a big fat LIE.
First there's the case of Marissa Alexander, who attempted to justify her actions in court using the "stand your ground" defense. Her efforts failed and the reason they failed had nothing to do with race. She was threatened and trapped inside her home by her ex-husband, who refused to leave. She managed to escape the danger and got out of the house, but instead of going to a neighbors house for safety or calling the police, she went out to her car, got her gun, and went back into the house to confront him... The stand your ground law allows a person to meet force with force with no legal obligation to retreat. In her case however, she did retreat, fled the house and was no longer in danger or being threatened. By going back into the house with her gun, she willfully injected herself back into that threatening position, she became the aggressor, and by law forfeited any right to claim legal self defense... That's exactly why the judge in the case ruled against her, and it had nothing to do with her being black.
Next is the Cece McDonald case and this one couldn't be any more dishonest... First, the prosecutor offered her a plea deal 2 days before the trial and she took it, so the case never went to trial... Second, and this is a biggie.... Minnesota doesn’t even have a stand your ground law, therefore it couldn't have possibly failed her.
Lie, lie, big fat stinking lie... That's all that picture is...
I just don't get how people can use lies like this to justify their beliefs or prop up some agenda, when they know full well that those lies stir up racial hatred in our society, cause people to commit acts of violence against innocent people, and weakens the publics confidence in our judicial system, leading more and more people to take justice into their own hands... Are your beliefs that weak, or is your agenda that important, that using lies and deception is the only way to bring them legitimacy?
The moral of the lesson is that if someone barges into your home you don't have a right to stand your ground, but only if you're Black.I don't understand why Martin supporters and race baiter's feel it's necessary to make false comparisons and lie, when doing so makes both the country, as well as our judicial system look bad? If you don't know what I'm talking about, then this photo that my liberal aunt posted on her Facebook page should explain it perfectly.
View attachment 67150560
Obviously that picture attempts to portrait the Zimmerman verdict as one that was based on race, to paint the judicial system as racially biased, and to imply that the "stand your ground" law is one that only benefits people who aren't black. There's just one problem with that picture though... it's a big fat LIE.
First there's the case of Marissa Alexander, who attempted to justify her actions in court using the "stand your ground" defense. Her efforts failed and the reason they failed had nothing to do with race. She was threatened and trapped inside her home by her ex-husband, who refused to leave. She managed to escape the danger and got out of the house, but instead of going to a neighbors house for safety or calling the police, she went out to her car, got her gun, and went back into the house to confront him... The stand your ground law allows a person to meet force with force with no legal obligation to retreat. In her case however, she did retreat, fled the house and was no longer in danger or being threatened. By going back into the house with her gun, she willfully injected herself back into that threatening position, she became the aggressor, and by law forfeited any right to claim legal self defense... That's exactly why the judge in the case ruled against her, and it had nothing to do with her being black.
So the claim in that picture that the stand your ground law failed to protect her, is nothing but a lie...
Because it is bad.. it is not the first case of injustice by a long shot. Your legal system is riddled with innocent people in jail and clearly guilty people getting off because the happen to be able to afford a good lawyer.
Is it now?
First off all..are you saying that she returned to defend her home? Aint that legal anymore?
Secondly, think about it. She escaped her attacker, did not contact the police and went back to defend her property
according to you, and got 20 years. Zimmerman was told by the police to stand down, do not approach Martin, and yet he did so and defied the police... and he got off for murder?
And you are saying it has nothing to do with race? HAHAH good one.
The cases are very similar.. but with much different outcomes.
The moral of the lesson is that if someone barges into your home you don't have a right to stand your ground, but only if you're Black.
Hilariously you claim that Marissa Alexander injected herself into danger but somehow George "I'm looking for streetsigns in backyards" Zimmerman didn't.
I don't understand why Martin supporters and race baiter's feel it's necessary to make false comparisons and lie, when doing so makes both the country, as well as our judicial system look bad? If you don't know what I'm talking about, then this photo that my liberal aunt posted on her Facebook page should explain it perfectly.
View attachment 67150560
Obviously that picture attempts to portrait the Zimmerman verdict as one that was based on race, to paint the judicial system as racially biased, and to imply that the "stand your ground" law is one that only benefits people who aren't black. There's just one problem with that picture though... it's a big fat LIE.
First there's the case of Marissa Alexander, who attempted to justify her actions in court using the "stand your ground" defense. Her efforts failed and the reason they failed had nothing to do with race. She was threatened and trapped inside her home by her ex-husband, who refused to leave. She managed to escape the danger and got out of the house, but instead of going to a neighbors house for safety or calling the police, she went out to her car, got her gun, and went back into the house to confront him... The stand your ground law allows a person to meet force with force with no legal obligation to retreat. In her case however, she did retreat, fled the house and was no longer in danger or being threatened. By going back into the house with her gun, she willfully injected herself back into that threatening position, she became the aggressor, and by law forfeited any right to claim legal self defense... That's exactly why the judge in the case ruled against her, and it had nothing to do with her being black.
So the claim in that picture that the stand your ground law failed to protect her, is nothing but a lie...
Next is the Cece McDonald case and this one couldn't be any more dishonest... First, the prosecutor offered her a plea deal 2 days before the trial and she took it, so the case never went to trial... Second, and this is a biggie.... Minnesota doesn’t even have a stand your ground law, therefore it couldn't have possibly failed her.
Lie, lie, big fat stinking lie... That's all that picture is...
I just don't get how people can use lies like this to justify their beliefs or prop up some agenda, when they know full well that those lies stir up racial hatred in our society, cause people to commit acts of violence against innocent people, and weakens the publics confidence in our judicial system, leading more and more people to take justice into their own hands... Are your beliefs that weak, or is your agenda that important, that using lies and deception is the only way to bring them legitimacy?
Hilariously you claim that Marissa Alexander injected herself into danger but somehow George "I'm looking for streetsigns in backyards" Zimmerman didn't.
Because it
First off all..are you saying that she returned to defend her home? Aint that legal anymore?
. Zimmerman was told by the police to stand down, do not approach Martin, and yet he did so and defied the police... .
the US.
Because it is bad.. it is not the first case of injustice by a long shot. Your legal system is riddled with innocent people in jail and clearly guilty people getting off because the happen to be able to afford a good lawyer.
First off all..are you saying that she returned to defend her home? Aint that legal anymore?
Secondly, think about it. She escaped her attacker, did not contact the police and went back to defend her property according to you, and got 20 years. Zimmerman was told by the police to stand down, do not approach Martin, and yet he did so and defied the police... and he got off for murder? And you are saying it has nothing to do with race? HAHAH good one. The cases are very similar.. but with much different outcomes.
Yes I agree if true. But saying that, the plea deal could easily have been the better of options open to her even though she might be innocent. There has been recent studies showing that a lot of people are in jail on plea deals, not because they are guilty but because the alternative of going to trial would have put them at great risk of a much longer sentence because the legal system was stacked against them. And that is just wrong..
Grim.. the right uses lies on a daily basis and yet you defend most of them constantly..
the very fact that Martin went from the victim to the accused
The reason that you think that the US and US justice system is portrait in a bad light is simple... it deserves it!
Marissa Alexander left her car keys in the house.
Which still doesn't change that she extracted herself from the situation, retrieved lethal force, and reinstated herself into the situation which LEGALLY negates the ability to claim "Stand your ground".
Because it is bad.. it is not the first case of injustice by a long shot. Your legal system is riddled with innocent people in jail and clearly guilty people getting off because the happen to be able to afford a good lawyer.
First off all..are you saying that she returned to defend her home? Aint that legal anymore?
Secondly, think about it. She escaped her attacker, did not contact the police and went back to defend her property according to you, and got 20 years. .
My question is why people who think the Martin case is evidence that system is racially biased never compare George Zimmerman to OJ Simpson.
The Zimmerman verdict wasn't because he had a good lawyer... It was because the state had no case against him in the first place.
Disagree
Having good counsel was critical in Z's verdict
Many individuals are locked up due to ****ty counsel and circumstantial evidence
I don't understand why Martin supporters and race baiter's feel it's necessary to make false comparisons and lie, when doing so makes both the country, as well as our judicial system look bad? If you don't know what I'm talking about, then this photo that my liberal aunt posted on her Facebook page should explain it perfectly.
View attachment 67150560
Obviously that picture attempts to portrait the Zimmerman verdict as one that was based on race, to paint the judicial system as racially biased, and to imply that the "stand your ground" law is one that only benefits people who aren't black. There's just one problem with that picture though... it's a big fat LIE.
First there's the case of Marissa Alexander, who attempted to justify her actions in court using the "stand your ground" defense. Her efforts failed and the reason they failed had nothing to do with race. She was threatened and trapped inside her home by her ex-husband, who refused to leave. She managed to escape the danger and got out of the house, but instead of going to a neighbors house for safety or calling the police, she went out to her car, got her gun, and went back into the house to confront him... The stand your ground law allows a person to meet force with force with no legal obligation to retreat. In her case however, she did retreat, fled the house and was no longer in danger or being threatened. By going back into the house with her gun, she willfully injected herself back into that threatening position, she became the aggressor, and by law forfeited any right to claim legal self defense... That's exactly why the judge in the case ruled against her, and it had nothing to do with her being black.
So the claim in that picture that the stand your ground law failed to protect her, is nothing but a lie...
Next is the Cece McDonald case and this one couldn't be any more dishonest... First, the prosecutor offered her a plea deal 2 days before the trial and she took it, so the case never went to trial... Second, and this is a biggie.... Minnesota doesn’t even have a stand your ground law, therefore it couldn't have possibly failed her.
Lie, lie, big fat stinking lie... That's all that picture is...
I just don't get how people can use lies like this to justify their beliefs or prop up some agenda, when they know full well that those lies stir up racial hatred in our society, cause people to commit acts of violence against innocent people, and weakens the publics confidence in our judicial system, leading more and more people to take justice into their own hands... Are your beliefs that weak, or is your agenda that important, that using lies and deception is the only way to bring them legitimacy?
There's no denying that O'Mara and West put up a very good defense, but that doesn't change the fact that the state had no case to begin with... Remember, the local DA didn't file any charges to begin with and Zimmerman wasn't arrested, because they knew they had no evidence and couldn't get a conviction if they took the case to court.
Actually, the state *believe it or not* had a very good chance/probability with manslaughter but they blew it
The state lost focus on that specific charge
Actually, no they didn't... The entire case came down to the self defense claim, and there is no way the state could change the known facts on that issue.
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