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I have to apologize to George W Bush

How about you write W a letter instead of creating a Hate Trump thread.
 
I used to think George W Bush was rock bottom in terms of presidencies. I mean can't get any worse than that. Horrible economy, Katrina, Iraq and Afghanistan. I was wrong. Trump is 10 times worse than bush.

Oh man, I'd LOVE to get that hapless fortunate son back.

Sorry Dubya, we didn't know how good we had it!

You may have given the economy a good ****ing, but you were a romantic gentleman compared to what has followed.
 
I used to think George W Bush was rock bottom in terms of presidencies. I mean can't get any worse than that. Horrible economy, Katrina, Iraq and Afghanistan. I was wrong. Trump is 10 times worse than bush.
Agree ! The only upside to this is there will never be one worse!
 
I used to think George W Bush was rock bottom in terms of presidencies. I mean can't get any worse than that. Horrible economy, Katrina, Iraq and Afghanistan. I was wrong. Trump is 10 times worse than bush.

Clue

Trump is president in name only he is not a true president
 
I remember rolling my eyes at signs of Bush with a Hitler mustache. Not so much if I saw one like that of Trump.
 
I used to think George W Bush was rock bottom in terms of presidencies. I mean can't get any worse than that. Horrible economy, Katrina, Iraq and Afghanistan. I was wrong. Trump is 10 times worse than bush.
LOL. Then what does that make democrats and Biden? Americans threw them out of office in favor of Trump. Democrat's approval rating is at least 10 points lower than Trump.
 
LOL. Then what does that make democrats and Biden? Americans threw them out of office in favor of Trump. Democrat's approval rating is at least 10 points lower than Trump.
It makes Americans look either apathetic (for not voting at all or voting third party) or stupid (voting for Donald).
 
I used to think George W Bush was rock bottom in terms of presidencies. I mean can't get any worse than that. Horrible economy, Katrina, Iraq and Afghanistan. I was wrong. Trump is 10 times worse than bush.
Dubya stood up for American Muslims.
 
It makes Americans look either apathetic (for not voting at all or voting third party) or stupid (voting for Donald).
Everyone has opinions. But, here's the current facts:

Here's the real truth from the RCP average:

Trump 46 to 51.4


Democrats 33.5 to 60.7

 
LOL. Then what does that make democrats and Biden? Americans threw them out of office in favor of Trump. Democrat's approval rating is at least 10 points lower than Trump.
Because of inflation. Everything else was fine otherwise. Not the case with bush. Bush failed on all counts. Btw trump made inflation worse.
 
Everyone has opinions. But, here's the current facts:

Here's the real truth from the RCP average:

Trump 46 to 51.4


Democrats 33.5 to 60.7

The disapproval of Democrats does not take away from the disaster of Trump, or the disapproval for him.

Disapproval of Democrats has a lot to do with their fecklessness when it comes to actively and effectively countering Donald's corruption and idiocy.
 
I used to think George W Bush was rock bottom in terms of presidencies. I mean can't get any worse than that. Horrible economy, Katrina, Iraq and Afghanistan. I was wrong. Trump is 10 times worse than bush.
Doing nothing after 9/11 would have been unacceptable, so I don't blame him for going into Afghanistan. Dragging the war on was a mistake, but going in was a given.

Iraq was based on lies. If Bush knew of these lies, then I hold him accountable. I can't say for sure. He should have known, which is enough to find fault.

Bush is what I generally refer to as an honest man. He believed in himself and his vision. He was upfront. His actions and words weren't based on division. Indeed, W was the first POTUS to appoint a black SoS. Twice. One a woman.

How many wet-behind-the-ears kids today, when asked, "Which party nominated the first black SoS?" would answer, "the Republicans."

That's how much we've changed.
 
Dems like the Bush neocon warpig (goaded on by Cheney/Rumsfeld) so we could squander a trillion or so nationbuilding
Shrub just continued to let China offshoe jobs since they were now part of the WTO.. There is NOTHING GOOD about Shrub

Oh wait...he's not Trump - enough for Dems
 
I used to think George W Bush was rock bottom in terms of presidencies. I mean can't get any worse than that. Horrible economy, Katrina, Iraq and Afghanistan. I was wrong. Trump is 10 times worse than bush.
I agree. I used to loathe most of Bush's policies, particularly the Imperial American Empire, that believed it was ok to conquer other nations, though there were a couple that had merit. That said, George Bush was a decent and honorable man.

The current president is pretty close to an anti-Christ by God's own definition.... so, yes, we went from a president that was a purveyor of bad policy to a President that was both a purveyor of bad policy AND a wretched human being. Hence, we went from the frying pan into the fires of hell.


How about you write W a letter instead of creating a Hate Trump thread.
It seems that you have missed the point of this thread.

LOL. Then what does that make democrats and Biden? Americans threw them out of office in favor of Trump. Democrat's approval rating is at least 10 points lower than Trump.
You do understand that much of the driving factor in the Democratic low approval rating is from Democrats feeling the party is not doing all it can to stand up to Trump? You can count me among those that have dissatisfaction with the Democratic party, but if you translated that into support for Trump, you would be making a incorrect assumption.

I just moved. I do not intend to re-register as a Democrat, but as an independent. Like most independents, however, that label will not make me a free agent, as I will generally vote for Democrats.

 
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we went from a president that was a purveyor of bad policy to a President that was both a purveyor of bad policy AND a wretched human being.
Remember when conservatives would bemoan the decline of civility and the coarseness of culture? Good times.

Now they'll step over their own mothers to defend, whatabout, and cheer for an absolute shit human being like Trump.
 
Remember when conservatives would bemoan the decline of civility and the coarseness of culture? Good times.

Now they'll step over their own mothers to defend, whatabout, and cheer for an absolute shit human being like Trump.
...which is why it is a cult, as by any objective measure Trump is a wretched human being that has no respect for the American Constitution, American heritage nor understands American exceptionalism, each would have been prerequisites for any serious presidential candidate, Republican or Democrat.

Trump's supporters have sold out America for ..... what, exactly? Bush II, though most of us hated his policies, most of us at least respected the man and accepted that he at least tried to do what was right for America (even when he failed at doing so)... iow, most of us at least thought Bush II's intentions were sincere and his heart was in the right place, its just is policies were idiotic..... He had some redeeming qualities. None of that is true with Trump, however.
 
Doing nothing after 9/11 would have been unacceptable, so I don't blame him for going into Afghanistan. Dragging the war on was a mistake, but going in was a given.

Iraq was based on lies. If Bush knew of these lies, then I hold him accountable. I can't say for sure. He should have known, which is enough to find fault.
The lie of Iraq was it was about WMD; it wasn't. Bush knew that, but sold the WMD angle anyway.

The real reason we went to Iraq was there was this perverted obsession with democratizing the middle east held by neo-cons. The thought was that Iraq was one of the best educated nations in the middle east AND was repressed by Hussein. If you could just topple the dictatorship, democracy would take hold and flourish.... with Iraq's success at democracy, there would begin a tsunami of democracy in the middle east, which would lead to a sustained peace (and mitigate the threat of middle eastern countries meddling with the oil markets).

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2023/0...-its-aftermath/introduction-promise-democracy

It was a very interesting theory, but that is all it was, and it certainly did not hold true.


Bush is what I generally refer to as an honest man. He believed in himself and his vision. He was upfront. His actions and words weren't based on division. Indeed, W was the first POTUS to appoint a black SoS. Twice. One a woman.

How many wet-behind-the-ears kids today, when asked, "Which party nominated the first black SoS?" would answer, "the Republicans."

That's how much we've changed.
 
Because of inflation. Everything else was fine otherwise. Not the case with bush. Bush failed on all counts. Btw trump made inflation worse.
Ummmmmmmmmmm, inflation was 19% under Biden's four years. Trump was never close to that.
 
LOL. Then what does that make democrats and Biden? Americans threw them out of office in favor of Trump. Democrat's approval rating is at least 10 points lower than Trump.
Argumentum ad populum

Try to avoid logical fallacies.
 
How about you write W a letter instead of creating a Hate Trump thread.
Both Bush’s were elected due to Reagan’s amnesty.
Then ‘along came TEA and MAGA’, and therefore Obama.
Then minority men deserted both Dem women for potus.

GWB took his Father’s ‘sage advice’ to stay quiet after his Presidency.
 
LOL. Then what does that make democrats and Biden? Americans threw them out of office in favor of Trump. Democrat's approval rating is at least 10 points lower than Trump.
Billionaires who profit from Trump own the media that tells Americans Democrats are 'so bad.' Sure, most Democrats are on the take of legalized big money corruption of our government, but Republicans are far worse and are not demonized by the same media. So really, the idea that we have to put up with Trump to save us from Democrats is bullshit. Democrats would be better. The economy would not be tanking right now if we had elected Kamala Harris and Democrats.

The real reason Democrats are not polling better is because the media down-talks them incessantly, and most Americans do not take the time to become well informed. Instead they spend a little time absorbing slanted infotainment. That doesn't make Republicans better. It merely tweaks the perception.
 
I used to think George W Bush was rock bottom in terms of presidencies. I mean can't get any worse than that. Horrible economy, Katrina, Iraq and Afghanistan. I was wrong. Trump is 10 times worse than bush.
He had me after Trump was elected the first time with his miss me now? quip.
 
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