Your opinion is held by all responsible, compassionate people.
The anti-choice crowd wields their "a fetus is a person" sword all the time, because that's all they've got. They know that a fetus, especially in the first trimester, is not the same as an infant or older child. They know that - but they raise their faulty sword anyway.
At the foundation of the anti-choice crowd lies a fierce desire to control women and deny them reproductive control of their own bodies.
No, me calling you out for your delusional lies about us destroys your credibility, pro-abort.
I don't have a desire, fierce or otherwise, to control women; what I want is for the unborn not to be killed.
It didn't come close to qualifying as "calling me out."
It was an extremist rant that demonstrated why no one takes anti-choice radicals seriously. They're just bat**** crazy.
Pointing out that you lied and stating for a fact the reason why you lied is absolutely calling you out.
Must have hit a nerve since all you have now after your logical fallacy failed is ad hominem attacks against another poster.
Oh, my statement of fact that you made baseless accusations about us re: presumed misogyny was false?
Great, we're back to you saying we hate women just because we want to protect the human right to life against aggression.
We've established that we don't trust anything each other says or why they're saying it, I guess.
Humans don't really have a right to life that is absolute. If so, no killing of any human would ever be acceptable.
Self-defense.
No, me calling you out for your delusional lies about us destroys your credibility, pro-abort.
Which can be claimed about the human inside a persons body as well if you wish to go there. But we also allow people to kill others in defense of property and even have the death penalty legal.
Self-defense justifies killing; you can assert your rights with defensive force against an attacker specifically because they have no right to be attacking you.
Delusional is calling a fetus a kid. It's this conflation, fetus equals child, which seems to exist only in the heads of the most extreme anti-abortion people. Like I said, most people can distinguish between aborting a 6 week old fetus and tossing a 6 week old baby off a roof. Anti-aborts cannot.
No, I don't wish to go to that absolute retardation of claiming a helpless innocent attacked you.
And it could easily be argued that a fetus attacks the woman who is carrying it. But again we justify killing other humans for more than just self defense. You can't claim that there are exceptions made that you justify but others don't have the same right to society agreed upon exceptions.
If you kill another human for stealing something, that is killing them for your own financial benefit.
Innocence is subjective. I can be killed by an innocent child with a gun. If I also have a gun and can't convince the child to put down the gun, can I kill that innocent child? If the child has a deadly disease can I kill the scared child to keep him or her from infecting 20 other people in his or her panic?
No, it cannot be rationally argued that a helpless and innocent human being is attacking anyone.
The fact that this even needs to be said is appalling.
You really don't understand self defense. Usually when some tweaker breaks into your house they only want to steal your stuff. But if you get in the way you are likely to end up dead over whatever trinket they think will pay for their next fix.
So you aren't defending your trinket, you are defending your life. Get educated on this.
Wow, play the victim much?
Here is a mind-boggling claim: someone who's actively fighting and advocating for abortion....is claiming she isn't. :roll:
I mean......talk about a brazen flim flam stance! That's pro-choice for you.
If you can't even stand by what you're fighting for - and you have to resort to foolish deceptive nonsense - what's the point of even addressing
your responses? How can anyone discuss with anyone who uses deceptive means (basically lies) to debate?
Like I've said, pro-choice rationalizations are all either downright lies, twisted untruths, and/or based in ignorance! That's all based on the arguments given here - all you've got to do is review the various threads to show that I'm right.
Correct. And unless you can post where I promoted abortion, please do not post lies.
As for advocating for abortion, that is also wrong. I advocate for women, and a right to choose regarding their pregnancies.
Your opinion is held by all responsible, compassionate people.
The anti-choice crowd wields their "a fetus is a person" sword all the time, because that's all they've got. They know that a fetus, especially in the first trimester, is not the same as an infant or older child. They know that - but they raise their faulty sword anyway.
At the foundation of the anti-choice crowd lies a fierce desire to control women and deny them reproductive control of their own bodies.
This is not so, speaking only for myself, of course. Your "faulty sword" thing doesn't really work, but I do believe that the unborn have a right to life. I don't have a desire, fierce or otherwise, to control women; what I want is for the unborn not to be killed.
Helpless and innocent are again subjective. A 5 year old is pretty helpless and innocent when it comes to most things in life, yet they could still hurt or kill you with no intention to do so. Anyone can unintentionally cause harm to another. Do you have a right to defend yourself from unintentional harm or potential harm from another, or only from intentional harm?
Helpless and innocent are again subjective.
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