https://ktul.com/news/local/muskogee-high-school-starts-fining-students-for-being-late-missing-classPrincipal Kim Fleak said they've raised expectations for their students moving forward, but kids and their parents, who are most likely paying the fine, say it's out of line.
"There's no way that I could afford a $250 fine," said Johanna Hondy, whose daughter goes to the high school. "I don't know anyone in this town who can afford that really."*
Fleak said it's a way to make sure kids are in class.
Muskogee*High School is fining students for missing class and being late:
https://ktul.com/news/local/muskogee-high-school-starts-fining-students-for-being-late-missing-class
First how did they get such authority. Second how do they intend to collect?
From the article, "The high school is now implementing the state law that fines students for being late or not showing up'
Idiotic
That will cause any student who is going to be late, to call in sick and be absent that day. Or at least the smarter ones.
Detention is a better punishment
Most kids aren’t that smart. Calling in sick requires a doctors note or parental authority. I guess it sucks to suck. Start going to class so my tax dollars are less wasted. Hooligans.
Right. and when said kid calls mom or dad saying I am going to be late for school, and get a $250 fine, what do you think they will do? Call the school and say the kid is sick
Sure, or, push out students or families it doesn't want to deal with.I can see this being abused by the school to get more money.
Muskogee*High School is fining students for missing class and being late:
https://ktul.com/news/local/muskogee-high-school-starts-fining-students-for-being-late-missing-class
Muskogee*High School is fining students for missing class and being late:
https://ktul.com/news/local/muskogee-high-school-starts-fining-students-for-being-late-missing-class
Idiotic
That will cause any student who is going to be late, to call in sick and be absent that day. Or at least the smarter ones.
Detention is a better punishment
Did you bother reading the article or were you one of the kids who thought Cliff notes was good enough?
The fine is AFTER four (4) infractions in a four (4) week period... :roll:
The kids were only concerned about having to cross the campus in time to not be late. Since there is no time clock at the front of each classroom I don't see the problem for a minute or two, but be 10 minutes late four times in four weeks...
This is Muskogee OK, a district where attendance is a chronic issue. Dunno if this will continue but it will be a wake-up call for parents who routinely don't bother to even attend a parent teacher conference... (even back in the 90's I was amazed how few parents come in for a conference on the day the teacher's stay late in deeply conservative rural Oklahoma)
I imagine some in here will post their bias rather than try to understand the issues of a small rural fly over state town...eace
I have to disagree. Before I state this, I want you to know I don't mean this disrespectful toward you:
Taking kids out of class for not being in class does nothing but give them what they want in the first place - to not be in class. It's like firing an employee for quitting, or making a swimmer stay in the pool on a hot day for not getting out of the pool. It's the Brer Rabbit trap - "please don't throw me in that briar patch."
Parents are legally responsible for their children - period.
If a kid is truant regularly, the parents should be held responsible. In North Carolina the parents are held criminally liable in a court of law, not just a fine from a school.
NC parents face prison for children’s school absences
In NC there are 10 legitimate excused absences:
>illness or injury
>medical or dental appointments
>caring for a sick child if the student is the custodial parent
>a death in the immediate family
>religious observances
>going to required court appearances
>taking advantage of valid educational opportunities (such as serving as a legislative page), and
>visiting with a parent in the military who’s been called to duty, is on leave, or has just returned from combat deployment
Here's a good article from Lawyers.Com about - What Happens to Truants and Their Parents in North Carolina?
Muskogee went from some of the finest schools to the worst in a generation.
I only hope and pray that Will Rogers High School continues to thrive.
First how did they get such authority. Second how do they intend to collect?
I understand the idea of trying to get students to be in class, and support policies that will do that. Fining low and middle income families for kids being late is not going to do that. If the kid is a teenager, and somewhat uncontrollable it will result in the parents pulling the kid from school rather than face multiple fines (with the expectation they can not afford them).
Or the kid is having a fight with the parents and as punishment is intentionally late for 4 classes in a row. Opp's their goes a couple days wages for the parent.
This policy might be good for good students who are rarely late to class or absent. But for the marginal students, it will just drive them out of the school system, or out of their parents homes
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