ProudAmerican said:the exchange thats most disgusting is the political exchange on the topic from both sides of the isle.
Captain America said:I agree.
The sick pervert is into cybor sex with young boys. He got caught. He resigned.
Move on.
I'm sick of the visuals myself.
Navy Pride said:I to voted absolutely disgusted as I was with the Studds and Frank scandels.............
aps said:LOL You make me laugh (in a good way). Barney Frank was having a relationship with someone who had nothing to do with Congress. I am not bothered by that. Studds, however, is disgusting.
Navy Pride said:I don't even know if Frank was having and affair aps but I do know he was running a page whorehouse out of his apartment..............Do you condone that?
I agree on Studds.........He actually had sex with a 17 year old page.......Why didn't Tip Oneill fire him like Hastert did Foley? Don't you see the double standard?
aps said:This is outside the scope of his employment. I don't have a problem with it. I also don't have a problem wtih Bush receiving a DUI and snorting cocaine. He didn't do it on the job.
Studds was censured. I am not sure why he wasn't forced to resign, except for the fact that the page came forward and said it was consensual, although I don't find that to be an excuse. I agree--there is a double standard. However, it would depend on what democrat was saying that Hastert should step down. If it was a democrat who served when the Studds issue occurred and he/she said nothing, then, yes, it is a double standard. But for democrats who were not serving in 1983, they can validly make claims against Hastert.
Navy Pride said:1. What about the pages who were the gay whores for Frank......Don't you have a problem with that?
Navy Pride said:2. Consensual it was and underage page who Studds had sex with......Tip Oneill should have kicked him out, just like Hastert did Foley.........Why do Republicans resign or get fired and Democrats do not and get treated like heroes?
Kandahar said:They weren't pages; where did you get that idea?
And there's no evidence that Barney Frank knew what was going on. Even if he did, a victimless crime like prostitution is not nearly as serious as a child predator roaming the halls of Congress.
Hastert didn't kick him out, Foley resigned. Hastert doesn't even have the POWER to kick him out. Only a congressional vote for expulsion can do that, and I highly doubt that that could've been done when the story broke, on the last day of the congressional session.
Navy Pride said:1. Oh come on Frank does not know that a gay whorehouse is being run out of his apartment........If you believe that you have to be the most naive person I ever met...........
Navy Pride said:2. If he did not resign Hastert would have kicked him out and you know it....Why didn't Studds resign? Why didn't Oneill kick him out?
Kandahar said:I didn't say I believe it, I said there's no evidence he knew about it.
Man, talking to you is like talking to a brick wall...Let's try this again. Pay attention this time, so I don't have to repeat myself again:
Hastert doesn't have the POWER to "kick him out." Only an expulsion vote by the entire House can do that, and they were in their last day of the session when the story broke.
Navy Pride said:1. Horse ****!!!! You are the most naive person I ever met.......
Navy Pride said:2. He can force him to resign as could of Oneill........
Article I said:Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two thirds, expel a member.
Kandahar said:Then what is the evidence?
Where in the US Constitution do you see that the Speaker of the House has the authority to just "kick someone out" of Congress on his own? Only the House as a whole can do that. Here:
Navy Pride said:1. It is documented that Frank had a gay whorehouse running out of his apartment..........The man lived there........Don't you think he would know that?????
Navy Pride said:2. It doesn't say that but I guareentee tou that if he had not resigned he would have been kicked out of Congress
Navy Pride said:and that is what should of happened with Studds and Frank.... They committed felonys........How you can defend scumbags like that boggles the mind.......
I do. But unless you have evidence against him that PROVES that Frank knew about it, he shouldn't be kicked out of Congress.
No he wouldn't have. Congress was on its last day of the session when this story broke. They wouldn't have had time to kick him out...the voters would do it for them.
I haven't defended either of their actions, but I see no evidence that either of them broke the law.[/
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