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I see too many potential problems with publishing individual salary information. There are issues with workplace harmony, privacy, and direct marketing.
It is against my company's policy to discuss salary. I could be fired for telling a co-worker what I make.
It is against my company's policy to discuss salary. I could be fired for telling a co-worker what I make.
I think personal information probably shouldn't be unless it is related to some decisions that his salary effects. Scales should be posted though because decisions about budgets and taxes are related. Individuals' actual pay, no, I can't see a need to know that. If you can't tell the difference, that's you're problem.
Yep, I think within a company all salaries should be known, the demanded secrecy is what enables unfair wage practices experienced by most women and many minorities.
That's an issue I had never thought of before.
Taxpayers have a duty to know how their community spends its money, but individuals have a right to privacies.
Certainly, the entire budget for a department should be known, and a break down as to what goes to salaries, maintenance, etc. But at some point, it should stop before individual's salary. Maybe posted by some non identifying information the way the they sometime post grades.
No, my dear, if you can't see the similarity, that's your problem.
There is nothing that should be more transparent than how tax dollars are spent. In Illinois, as an example, and I think in most states, there are online data bases to search individual teacher salaries. And their outrageous pensions. That's as it should be. They're using MY money, why would I not have a right to know how much they're making?
But let me get back to the post of mine you quoted. It's okay to leak state secrets...to identify informants and target them for assassination among other things--and, in fact, you say it's a great idea. But letting taxpayers know how their tax dollars are being spent as regards to individual salaries, is an invasion of privacy?
Huh????
Entire budgets don't tell the tale. Administrators have long been obfuscating individual salaries for very good reasons. The taxpayers would be up in arms if they knew what police, firefighters, teachers earn. If taxpayers knew the golden pensions these people received, they would be amazed -- and not amused AT all.
Sorry Sweetie, you ain't my style. I stand by my comments, yours are ridiculous. Of course we should know how are dollars are spent, but by department or organization, not by individuals except for elected officials.
As for the Huh? Wages should be posted internally in a company, not publicly outside the company.
Wages should be posted internally for every employee...but if anyone leaks the information to the general public then that's an invasion of privacy.....you really need to rethink your stance. It makes no sense. Also, why the exception for elected officials? What's your reasoning?
I know what they make and I think they're way under paid for having to put up with assholes like you and like me.
Just because you call yourself an asshole, doesn't mean you can call me one, Summerwind. You think they're way underpaid because you don't know what they're making. If you do, link me to your state's LEO salaries--the state database. Let's both have a look. Your attitude that LEOs etc., are somehow sacred cows is drowning our states (you and me as taxpayers) in debt.
Just because you call yourself an asshole, doesn't mean you can call me one, Summerwind. You think they're way underpaid because you don't know what they're making. If you do, link me to your state's LEO salaries--the state database. Let's both have a look. Your attitude that LEOs etc., are somehow sacred cows is drowning our states (you and me as taxpayers) in debt.
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come on maggie, be real. I don't know about your state, but in my state teachers and cops are waaaay underpaid compared to others with similar education and training.
I quit teaching in 2004, for many reasons. one of them was the pay. I was teaching in the 2nd highest paid school district in the state, so I was making above the average for a teacher in Alabama. I have a masters degree and had 10 years experience and I was making $40K per year.
I found a job with a govt contractor that paid $19K more per year.
The sheriff's deputies in my county make in the upper 20s, lower 30s depending on experience. My son makes more than that repairing HVAC systems.
An Alabama State Trooper makes around $35K
How the **** did you figure that out?I just noticed that my arresting officer is paid $123,000 yearly.
Considering recent events here, I'd be happy paying cops 500k a year if the budget allowed.I thought this was way too much, but I'm sure many would disagree.
I just noticed that my arresting officer is paid $123,000 yearly. I thought this was way too much, but I'm sure many would disagree.
The average teacher earns about $40,000, in my view they should earn about 3 times as much as police.
The average teacher earns about $40,000, in my view they should earn about 3 times as much as police.
As for how much police should make... I don't know enough about their work ethic to comment. Somewhere around 70k sounds reasonable, increasing as you advance up for force.
Why? I have no problems with teachers earning on par with cops, but I work in the field, and cops do difficult work.
I don't see you signing up to run down dark alleys after guys with guns, amirite?
Why? I have no problems with teachers earning on par with cops, but I work in the field, and cops do difficult work.
I don't see you signing up to run down dark alleys after guys with guns, amirite?
liblady said:i really disagree. a teaching degree is fairly easy to get, and cops put their lives on the line. teachers work 9 months a year.
I'd say that teaching in an American classroom today posses about as much of a threat as running down a dark alley after a guy with guns.
Where are you teaching, Hatuey? Camden, NJ?
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