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How Much Longer Will America Last?

Mickey Shane said:
I tend to go with the Declaration of Independence for the start of our country. 1976 was the Bi-Centennial year. What country are you from?
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Is your birthday the day your mother said to your father, "Hey, let's have a kid."?

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2000 said:
History tells us empires don't last forever.
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What's any of that got to do with the United States? Everyone who's not dead knows the United States is not an empire and it's people have no aspirations for such.

That being said, the republic of the United States died when the Seventeenth Amendment was ratified. And it's been all downhill since the Wilson Administration and the infestation of the Progressives.
 
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Just cuious, but how much did you feed the carrier pigeons take this post of yours to the Posting Center?
 
jujuman13 said:
As a Respected World Power, finished.
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Nah. All the United States has to do is stop electing Progressives and socialists and start electing Americans again, men and women who both respect and understand the Constitution and who understand that freedom, not dependency, is the fount of American exceptionalism and greatness.


jujuman13 said:
As a respected armed nation, that will continue until such time as another nation has armed forces with as much strength and mobility as the US armed forces.
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And a responsible American government interested in the preservation of American liberty won't allow that to happen.

jujuman13 said:
As a respected Nation. Finished.
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No, just in abeyance, while the United States struggles with the infestation of socialists and Progressives who are trying to implement "Destroy America" policies that everyone else in the world was fleeing to America to escape from.

Restore the American dedication to "liberty and justice for all" (and that includes white victims of black race criminals, Mr. Obama), and the totally worthless respect of the inferior nations will be restored.

If anyone wants it.
 
lizzie said:
Our military wasn't outdone by Islamic terrorists. Our government law enforcement (and other) agencies were off guard, and we as the population were complacent and unaware of what can happen.
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MOST importantly, the apeasement politicians keep telling people that someone will take care of them, so when a plane load of Americans were skyjacked by primitive with razor blades, those people sat back in their seats and followed the Someone Else's Problem Rule: Do nothing, government will fix it.

Well, the government isn't putting those people back together, are they?

Can you imagine a plane load of men and women from 1900 being held hostage by five thugs with itty-bitty box cutters?

The United States has to change it's culture back to one tha grows men. Not all fighting is bad, and practice makes perfect. So, since violence most certainly DOES settle some things, it's time to restore a culture where fighting is respected. So you liberals are going to have to stop trying to turn little boys into little girls.

Little boys who draw pictures of soldiers carrying guns are NORMAL little boys. Adult teachers to freak out and try to suspend little boys who draw pictures of soldiers carrying guns are ABNORMAL SICK little wannabe girls who have a complex because their brother put a frog under their sheets.
 



VERY well stated, succinctly and clearly.
 
Goobieman said:
His original statement:



The current US government was formed upon ratification of the Constitution.
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Actually, that would be the present "form of government". The U.S. gets a new government with every change of occupancy at the White House...

And where did he get that number of 225 years for governments to last?!?!? I call BS on that claim...
 
First of all, how long will the United States last as a nation? Indefinately. The world is far more stable today. Once upon a time, states came and went with alarming regularity and rapidity. However, today, this does not happen much at all. It is far more common for states to break up with separatist elements gaining independent status while leaving a rump state that is generally recognized as a continuation of the original state. For example: Soviet Union - Russia; Yugoslavia - Serbia; as well as Eritrea breaking away from Ethiopia, Kosovo breaking away from Serbia, among others. It did not signify the demise of a state, but rather the creation of a new state leaving a rump state to continue the international rights and obligations.

How does this affect the United States? Well, even if the United States does decline and is no longer the world's leading power, it doens't mean the United States will die. It has a tremendous resource base and an innovative population. Will the United States break up into small pieces? Yes, there was a civil war a century and a half ago and there is the so-called blue-red "divide" but will this actually result in the split of the United States? I don't see it.

So, the answer to this question is the U.S. will remain indefinately. The international state system is more stable today than at any point in history. It would take a major cataclysm to change that anytime in the foreseable future.
 

Hmmmmm, there are times of stability and times of upheaval, in my perception of history. It may be that times of upheaval are farther apart, but I believe they still can happen. Consider that upheaval is usually a result of a power vacuum where any mistrust that is present can germinate and bloom, and that those form when empires become untenable. I believe that empires become creaky when they attempt to maintain militaries they can no longer afford.

I think things like the blue-red divide become blown out of proportion when demagogues attempt to use them during a crisis to further their own political potency. We already have the demagogues. All we need is the big crisis.

Given these things, I certainly don't see the breakup of the U.S. as impossible. Not that I see it as a foregone conclusion, either. IF it does happen, I do think we'll barely able to tell how we got from here to there. And, that people with sense will be thinking and saying how ridiculous it all is.
 
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America as it was envisaged by this Nations Founders is effectively finished.
Once any Government places multiple restrictions upon it's citizenry and Taxes them at every opportunity, then any freedoms they may have (at one time ) enjoyed are no longer enjoyable.
Such is the state of affairs not only in the USA but to a similar extent throughout civilization.
And to be perfectly honest such will always happen, it is a question of either the STRONG lording it over the weak or the WEAK massing together to become the STRONG and then lording it over everyone else.
Pretty much what is happening now.
Unionism it pretty much a protection racket, not a lot of difference.
 
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