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8/4/19
There was, it seems, no time to avert the massacre. The anti-immigrant, white-nationalist manifesto heralding an imminent attack was uploaded to the online message board 8chan only minutes before a shooter killed at least 20 people out shopping on a late-summer Saturday in El Paso, Texas. But in another sense, if U.S. authorities confirm that the document was written by the 21-year-old white male suspected of committing the atrocity, then there was plenty of time—numerous years in which violence by far-right, white-supremacist extremists has emerged as arguably the premier domestic-terrorist threat in the United States. The government may be working to prevent these violent acts, but it’s devoted less attention and fewer resources to the toxic ideology that knits them together. Such extremists have been tied to deadly rampages over the past year at synagogues in Pittsburgh and Poway, California, and possibly to a mass shooting just last week at a garlic festival in California. The statement posted shortly before the El Paso shooting cited the live-streamed assault on two mosques in New Zealand earlier this year, along with that perpetrator’s sprawling white-nationalist manifesto, as inspiration. President Donald Trump, who has stoked fear of immigrants, inflamed racial divisions, and excused the activities of white nationalists, has cut funding for, and in some cases wholly eliminated, initiatives begun under Barack Obama to counter violent extremism.
“The overwhelming majority of our domestic counterterrorism infrastructure is geared toward the threat of international [jihadist] terrorism,” the former Department of Homeland Security official George Selim told me. The FBI has noted that most of its domestic-terrorism cases featuring a racial motive involve white supremacists. Yet domestic terrorism by white nationalists is too often treated as “isolated, unconnected incidents,” argues the terrorism expert Clint Watts. This violence looks different than the sophisticated international jihadist attacks that Americans have come to associate with “terrorism” over the decades. Watts wants Congress to make domestic terrorism a federal crime. “There’s an open and ongoing debate about whether the government has an appropriate role fighting ideologies at all, but if it’s going to fight one ideology, such as jihadism, it should take an even-handed approach and also confront white supremacist ideology,” J. M. Berger, an expert on extremist ideologies, told me by email. “The government was doing little programmatic work under the Obama administration in this respect, and it’s doing even less programmatic work now.” “At this point,” he added, “it would be a win if the administration would just stop throwing red meat to white supremacists, but there seems to be little chance of that.”
How Many Attacks Will It Take Until the White-Supremacist Threat Is Taken Seriously?
FBI Director Christopher Wray said recently that the bureau doesn’t “investigate the ideology, no matter how repugnant. We investigate violence.”
Serious new law enforcement tools to combat domestic white supremacy/nationalism probably won't occur until the current Trump administration is removed en-mass.
Another of the many excellent and increasingly crucial reasons to vote him out of office come November 3, 2020.
One must be cautious when giving the government more power to surveil, monitor, invade privacy, etc., that in fear you give up your own privacy rights.
How Many Attacks Will It Take Until the White-Supremacist Threat Is Taken Seriously?
FBI Director Christopher Wray said recently that the bureau doesn’t “investigate the ideology, no matter how repugnant. We investigate violence.”
Serious new law enforcement tools to combat domestic white supremacy/nationalism probably won't occur until the current Trump administration is removed en-mass.
Another of the many excellent and increasingly crucial reasons to vote him out of office come November 3, 2020.
It was just one guy who shoot up that Walmart.
It's not like there's a organization with 10,000 members that we can infiltrate or sue.
The Ku Klux Klan was a big organization back in the 1860's - 1945. They've been pretty much destroyed. I don't really see a new organization taking their place.
Yup, that surveillance, monitoring, and invasion of privacy should be reserved for minorities and illegals.
That is a non sequitur, not an argument. :coffeepap:
That is a non sequitur, not an argument. :coffeepap:
How do you know which white supremacists are a threat? One out of many white supremacists mowed down people with his car.
It was just one guy who shoot up that Walmart.
It's not like there's a organization with 10,000 members that we can infiltrate or sue.
The Ku Klux Klan was a big organization back in the 1860's - 1945. They've been pretty much destroyed. I don't really see a new organization taking their place.
How Many Attacks Will It Take Until the White-Supremacist Threat Is Taken Seriously?
FBI Director Christopher Wray said recently that the bureau doesn’t “investigate the ideology, no matter how repugnant. We investigate violence.”
Serious new law enforcement tools to combat domestic white supremacy/nationalism probably won't occur until the current Trump administration is removed en-mass.
Another of the many excellent and increasingly crucial reasons to vote him out of office come November 3, 2020.
White supremacy itself is a threat.
If you're aligned with and enamored of white supremacy, you're a threat.
Your beliefs are inextricably tied to a history of genocide.
There is no such thing as "peaceful" ethnic cleansing, and white supremacy is tied to ethnic cleansing.
One cannot pretend to believe in a passive, non-violent or otherwise "benevolent" form of white supremacism because no such thing exists.
And then there was the one leftist guy in Daytona, which seems to have slipped from prominence in the media.
What was your suggestion when the threat was radical Islam?
Right. Clearly Bernie and Warren are speaking in dog whistles to get their supporters to slaughter people. Hopefully the FBI will look into them and end this scourge of left wing mass murders.
Who advocated for full body pat downs of African Americans in NYC?
Once again, another non sequitur and deliberate deflection from the OP.
Talk to the hand:
You've just got to pretend HARDER. Maybe someone will eventually believe your protestations. :lamo
You sure love your whataboutism.
Its called pointing out liberal hypocrisy. Anyone calling for steps today that they opposed when the threat was of a different origin are hypocrites. Sorry if that offends you.
Then you would have to extend that to Fartkhan.
Naw, you choose to ignore the hypocrisy. I suppose it would have to take a Black Panther Patrol to get the GOP to do anything.
Right. Clearly Bernie and Warren are speaking in dog whistles to get their supporters to slaughter people. Hopefully the FBI will look into them and end this scourge of left wing mass murders.
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