How likely is it that people in the federal government either assisted in the 9/11 attacks or took no action because they wanted war

[Nickyjo]

FDR knew, they broke the purple code.

check the history channel: Pearl Harbor. they dug up the clear Evidence so you don't have to.

i don't see any real CT types on this forum, seems they all huddle in a corner refusing to look for them selves.

come on out, the water is fine, we have more Resources on this than ever.

start with a book, any book on Conspiracy Fact and submerge into Historical reality that will not go away.

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From what I gathered, the US knew an attack was probably coming, but not where. My comment was to try to poke fun at the extreme paranoia that surfaced about 9/11, JFK, et al., and that seemed contained in the text of the OP.

 

[watsup]

start with a book, any book on Conspiracy Fact and submerge into Historical reality that will not go away.

Submerge into the fantasyland of conspiracy craziness.

 

[Quag]

thanks Quag

another thing that surprises me, when the Jet hit, they told everyone to keep working and not Evacuate the building

would you do that?

or was it to up the Casualty count?

both buildings should immediately Evacuated me thinks. whatcha think?


did you know that building really demolish from the Base of the building and not the top of the building at the speed of Gravity....





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Who told who to keep working?
Buildings collapsed from the damage and the fires

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

So how do you analyze the collapse of a very tall building without knowing the distribution of steel that held it up?
Did level 105 that only had to support 5 more stories contain the same amount of steel as level 5 which had to support the weight of 21 times as many stories?
It has only been TWENTY THREE YEARS!
When and where have any "experts" discussed or demanded accurate data on the distribution of steel, including the 6 basement levels?

It is a physics/engineering problem so why not have complete data? Try finding info on the horizontal beams in the core. The length of horizontal steel in the core should have been somewhat more than 2.5 times that of the vertical steel.

Talking about conspiracies without solving the physics is ridiculous. Of course you have to wonder how engineering schools in the nation that put men on the Moon have not pointed out that unknown data.

I didn't take the poll. I don't care who did it at this point.
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What is totally amazing is that (according to the only "facts" that fit your theory) is that BOTH of the WTC buildings were built TOTALLY without any architectural plans whatsoever.

I mean, if there were any plans then all of your "-incredibly- incredulously informed" questions would have been answered - wouldn't they?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

From what I gathered, the US knew an attack was probably coming, but not where. My comment was to try to poke fun at the extreme paranoia that surfaced about 9/11, JFK, et al., and that seemed contained in the text of the OP.

Indeed, the US government knew that the Japanese were going to attack "someone", "somewhere", "sometime". Based on the information that the US government DID actually (meaning "had intercepted, had decoded, had translated, had peripheral verification of, and had gotten into the hands of command staff") have, the "way to bet" was that the Japanese were going to attack the Dutch in order to secure a source of oil. The belief was that it was simply out of the uestion that the incompetent, under trained, ill equipped, physically deficient, and cowardly Japanese would think seriously of attacking their racial, social, and military superiors in the United States of America.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

None at all.

And in the name of Jesus Rimjobbing Christ and is lower-hanging left nut, why this shit again, now?

Because those of short attention span have forgotten that it has already been disproved.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

i did a LONG thread on another forum concerning these hijackers, the authorities were Notified concerning these strange students.

there was heavy pressure by deeep state ...

"Deeep state" is something believed in by those whom I could wade through the lucid pools of their minds and not get the welts of my wellies wet.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Ok, I have only one thing to ask about all that…

Where’s the proof?

You don't have to ask, because, as all real true Christians know, all the proof is in "The Bible".

You just have to know which letters (and in which sequence) to pay attention to.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

not really

i just know people that know Real History

my interest is more in Theology than what the Dark Side of the deeeeep state is up to.

been doing this for decades and i can smell deeeep state before most people can ask what happened.

so i build a theory in my mind and then look for the facts to correct a few errors. 911 was easy if you know how commercial sky scrappers are built and how buildings are demolished.

The technical term for that is "Confirmation Bias" and you appear to be very good at it.

a friend told me that it took him 4 years to figure out what took me 2 days to figure on 911 and he worked in Criminal Investigations. he laughed when i told him it took me two days to figure it out.

I have absolutely no doubt that he laughed at you.

oh well, i am so used to figuring out the Truth, that i try to LOOK at all possibilities. a shrink friend told me that i am the type to be BRUTALLY honest concerning the Truth; most people cannot face the Truth out of fear or what they call: 'cognitive dissonance'. so people would rather 'die than think'.

Are you sure that the "shrink" was a "friend" and not practicing their profession?

in the Spiritual world that is very dangerous and sends people to The Toaster.
blessings all.

Indeed, as you believe, in the beginning the universe had no form or structure and existed in a state of chaos and darkness. Then God created the universe by separating the elements, after which God created the first living beings.

Doesn't it make you proud to know that you belong to the only religion that "got it right"? Aren't you ecstatic to be a Hindu?

 

[psikeyhackr]

https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/NCSTAR/ncstar1.pdf

Maybe this will help you

ROFL

I downloaded the NCSTAR1 Report and burned it to DVD in 2007. Searched it dozens if not hundreds of times. The funniest thing that ain't there is the total amount of concrete. They use the word 'concrete' more than 3000 times. I read the every paragraph containing the word. Sources before 9/11 specify 425,000 cubic yards but the ÑIST never says. Because there were two densities of concrete, 110 and 150 lb/cu ft the total weight cannot be computed from that.

 

[psikeyhackr]

What is totally amazing is that (according to the only "facts" that fit your theory) is that BOTH of the WTC buildings were built TOTALLY without any architectural plans whatsoever.

I mean, if there were any plans then all of your "-incredibly- incredulously informed" questions would have been answered - wouldn't they?

Get the blueprints and look yourself. They are still in various places on the Internet. They show the positions of the columns in the core but not the horizontal beams showing how the columns braced each other.

Then there is the matter of the thickness of those beams. Did they vary down the towers?

Funny how people who trust in AUTHORITY assume information is there, but do not check for themselves. The emperor does not need to wear clothes, nobody is looking his way.

 

[watsup]

Get the blueprints and look yourself. They are still in various places on the Internet. They show the positions of the columns in the core but not the horizontal beams showing how the columns braced each other.

Then there is the matter of the thickness of those beams. Did they vary down the towers?

Funny how people who trust in AUTHORITY assume information is there, but do not check for themselves. The emperor does not need to wear clothes, nobody is looking his way.

Your commmentary is certainly in the correct forum.