While surfing the TV channels yesterday, I came across Ellen, whose show I never watch.
She was showing a video of her and Portia vacationing on an island in the Pacific Ocean.
I forgot her political views (with which I disagree) when her gentle humor and apparent genuine love for Portia touched my heart.
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I find it so sad there are some people who would verbally or legally or even physically attack two women (or two men) who are fortunate enough to find their true love.
While surfing the TV channels yesterday, I came across Ellen, whose show I never watch.
She was showing a video of her and Portia vacationing on an island in the Pacific Ocean.
I forgot her political views (with which I disagree) when her gentle humor and apparent genuine love for Portia touched my heart.
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I find it so sad there are some people who would verbally or legally or even physically attack two women (or two men) who are fortunate enough to find their true love.
Because some people, as post #2 will show, are bigoted fools, that have mindsets stuck in the 1950's. Thankfully, those people are dying out, and more and more are accepting LGBT people.
While surfing the TV channels yesterday, I came across Ellen, whose show I never watch.
She was showing a video of her and Portia vacationing on an island in the Pacific Ocean.
I forgot her political views (with which I disagree) when her gentle humor and apparent genuine love for Portia touched my heart.
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I find it so sad there are some people who would verbally or legally or even physically attack two women (or two men) who are fortunate enough to find their true love.
That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.
Creating and raising new life is one of the most selfless acts you can engage in. Talk to some parents and find out.If pumping out babies is "one of Humanity's highest aims" then it doesn't seem like Humanity is aiming much higher than its crotch.
This libertine attitude has given rise to people who are alienated and chase after fleeting pleasures. There are no higher aspirations and no sense of duty. Has this made the world better? Given our society's addiction to anti depressants and suicide rates, I don't see how you can say yes.To your thread title question: Between two consenting adults? I have no idea. I find it rather stupid to even care about two people of the same sex loving each other. Live and let live. As long as their happy with each other then nothing else should matter.
That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.
This libertine attitude has given rise to people who are alienated and chase after fleeting pleasures. There are no higher aspirations and no sense of duty. Has this made the world better? Given our society's addiction to anti depressants and suicide rates, I don't see how you can say yes.
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1. Homosexual sex is by nature not going to be procreative. Without pleasure, they're not going to engage in it. It's fleeting.1: How would you know what they feel is fleeting? You don't.
2: Suicide has many reasons and causes. Tying it to homosexuality is showing a vast ignorance on the issue.
That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.
1. Homosexual sex is by nature not going to be procreative. Without pleasure, they're not going to engage in it. It's fleeting.
2. I'm not tying it to just homosexuality. I'm tying it to hedonism in general.
That odd complusion you have to immediately and utterly out of context ascribe everything to genitals isn't rational. It bespeaks a certain obsession, and a very unhealthy one.
Oh, wait. You've publically admitted here that you've never had a blowjob.
Nevermind.
Life is about far more than procreation. If there were only about 10,000 people on the entire planet then you MIGHT have reason to worry. With 7 billion plus however you have nothing. Though even if there were only 10,000 people left on the planet you still wouldn't have anything for the simple fact that homosexuals can still procreate. They are not sterile. Artificial insemination, sex with someone of the opposite sex until pregnant... both of those are quite possible (and does happen) even if a homosexual loves someone of the same sex. So all in all you have nothing.
:roll: God forbid that people actually enjoy themselves in life. Everyone must always feel horrible!
Garbage.
That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.
It isn't? We're talking about homosexual sex. Why would I not bring up genitals?
Why are you always bringing up sodomy?
Life is about far more than procreation. If there were only about 10,000 people on the entire planet then you MIGHT have reason to worry. With 7 billion plus however you have nothing. Though even if there were only 10,000 people left on the planet you still wouldn't have anything for the simple fact that homosexuals can still procreate. They are not sterile. Artificial insemination, sex with someone of the opposite sex until pregnant... both of those are quite possible (and does happen) even if a homosexual loves someone of the same sex. So all in all you have nothing.
:roll: God forbid that people actually enjoy themselves in life. Everyone must always feel horrible!
Garbage.
Creating and raising new life is one of the most selfless acts you can engage in. Talk to some parents and find out.
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a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years.
If pumping out babies is "one of Humanity's highest aims" then it doesn't seem like Humanity is aiming much higher than its crotch.
So their options are a very unnatural way to give birth, or infidelity and leaving a child an unstable home. These are good options?
Let's just give people a morphine drip to make them feel good until they die. Because hey, life is nothing but pleasure, so why not?
What makes you think they dont feel both?
And there's nothing wrong with lust...it does promote the intimacy and bonding in a relationship.
No, YOU are. The OP never mentioned anything sexual or anything about genitals.
That's your projection.
Why are you afraid of oral sex? That's a much more interesting topic than two women taking a vacation together and you hating them for it.
That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.
This libertine attitude has given rise to people who are alienated and chase after fleeting pleasures. There are no higher aspirations and no sense of duty. Has this made the world better? Given our society's addiction to anti depressants and suicide rates, I don't see how you can say yes.
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