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Trump slams Puerto Rico: ?They want everything to be done for them? | TheHill...Trump said the Hurricane Maria disaster relief effort in Puerto Rico has been complicated because the island is “surrounded by water.” “This is an island, surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_OceanThe World Ocean or global ocean (colloquially the sea or the ocean) is the interconnected system of Earth's oceanic waters, and comprises the bulk of the hydrosphere, covering almost 71% of Earth's surface.
Trump slams Puerto Rico: ?They want everything to be done for them? | TheHill“The mayor of San Juan, who was very complimentary only a few days ago, has now been told by the Democrats that you must be nasty to Trump,” Trump tweeted. "Such poor leadership ability by the mayor of San Juan, and others in Puerto Rico, who are not able to get their workers to help." "They*want everything to be done for them when it should be a community effort," he continued. "10,000 Federal workers now on Island doing a fantastic job."
I'm appalled at the off the wall reaction regarding relief efforts for Puerto Rico.
First it was a knee-jerk reaction to his "Ocean" tweet:
Trump slams Puerto Rico: ?They want everything to be done for them? | TheHill
Mass commentary on how juvenile his comment was, calling the water surrounding Puerto Rico "ocean water" when "everybody knows it is in the Caribbean Sea." Yuck yuck..."another idiot comment!" :roll:
1. As I pointed out in a thread, the term "Ocean" also applies to the entire contiguous body of salt water on this planet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Ocean
2. Look at any map of the area. Puerto Rico's northern shores are on the Atlantic Ocean and the southern coast borders the Caribbean Sea.
So on THIS point, Trump was apparently correct..
Next is the over-the-top response to this tweet:
Trump slams Puerto Rico: ?They want everything to be done for them? | TheHill
1. The President was clearly referring to the mayor of San Juan, and other "leaders;" NOT the general population of Puerto Rico. Only people pre-disposed to see things in the worst possible light could think he was "slamming Puerto Rico."
2. I have to shake my head in amazement at all those arm-chair generals and arm-chair disaster relief managers who they think they know better as to how relief efforts can and should be handled.
People keep saying "we are the greatest most powerful blah! blah! blah!" without the slightest understanding about supply and logistics, and how they might affect disaster relief.
In the first place, it DOES matter that Puerto Rico is an island, as it is located 1032 miles (855 nautical miles) from Miami Florida. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/distances.html?n=226
Unlike responding to disasters in Texas and Florida, Puerto Rico is only accessible by air or sea. That sets the first logistical limit.
In the second place, we don't have unlimited access to planes, ships, and supplies. That sets the second logistical limit
The government does not have immediate access to all the naval and air transport assets in it's arsenal, as the bulk of them are assigned strategic missions supporting our troops and commitments overseas. Calling them back takes time, and must be limited to those not necessary to maintaining our overseas obligations.
That leaves merchant marine and private airline assets. Yet these are for-profit assets already commuted to commercial duties. Business is about the bottom line, and usually prefers "token" charity that won't upset their income stream. To divert their assets for disaster relief would degrade other transportation commitments, and also cost the government money.
That money has to be allocated by Congress. Anyone notice how Congress was less than cooperative with Mr. Trump's efforts to allocate funds for Texas and Florida relief?
So, let's say we can gather enough planes and ships to start ferrying needs resources to the island, what do we face there? The island's infrastructure is damaged. That sets the third logistical limit.
We need to get Army and Navy engineers on site to rebuild. Now according to all reports there are already at least 7,000 military personnel there along with another 3,000 FEMA personnel. Those numbers are growing, and they are working hand over fist to fix the infrastructure as quickly as they can.
Those are only a few of the problems this kind of effort is facing, yet all those arm-chair advisors know what's best and what the government should be doing. :roll:
how about stop going into a frenzy, always assuming the worst...and try to exercise a little restraint? Reacting to MSM propaganda based on assumption bias isn't helping IMO. :coffeepap:
I'm appalled at the off the wall reaction regarding relief efforts for Puerto Rico.
First it was a knee-jerk reaction to his "Ocean" tweet:
Trump slams Puerto Rico: ?They want everything to be done for them? | TheHill
Mass commentary on how juvenile his comment was, calling the water surrounding Puerto Rico "ocean water" when "everybody knows it is in the Caribbean Sea." Yuck yuck..."another idiot comment!" :roll:
1. As I pointed out in a thread, the term "Ocean" also applies to the entire contiguous body of salt water on this planet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Ocean
2. Look at any map of the area. Puerto Rico's northern shores are on the Atlantic Ocean and the southern coast borders the Caribbean Sea.
So on THIS point, Trump was apparently correct..
Next is the over-the-top response to this tweet:
Trump slams Puerto Rico: ?They want everything to be done for them? | TheHill
1. The President was clearly referring to the mayor of San Juan, and other "leaders;" NOT the general population of Puerto Rico. Only people pre-disposed to see things in the worst possible light could think he was "slamming Puerto Rico."
2. I have to shake my head in amazement at all those arm-chair generals and arm-chair disaster relief managers who they think they know better as to how relief efforts can and should be handled.
People keep saying "we are the greatest most powerful blah! blah! blah!" without the slightest understanding about supply and logistics, and how they might affect disaster relief.
In the first place, it DOES matter that Puerto Rico is an island, as it is located 1032 miles (855 nautical miles) from Miami Florida. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/distances.html?n=226
Unlike responding to disasters in Texas and Florida, Puerto Rico is only accessible by air or sea. That sets the first logistical limit.
In the second place, we don't have unlimited access to planes, ships, and supplies. That sets the second logistical limit
The government does not have immediate access to all the naval and air transport assets in it's arsenal, as the bulk of them are assigned strategic missions supporting our troops and commitments overseas. Calling them back takes time, and must be limited to those not necessary to maintaining our overseas obligations.
That leaves merchant marine and private airline assets. Yet these are for-profit assets already commuted to commercial duties. Business is about the bottom line, and usually prefers "token" charity that won't upset their income stream. To divert their assets for disaster relief would degrade other transportation commitments, and also cost the government money.
That money has to be allocated by Congress. Anyone notice how Congress was less than cooperative with Mr. Trump's efforts to allocate funds for Texas and Florida relief?
So, let's say we can gather enough planes and ships to start ferrying needs resources to the island, what do we face there? The island's infrastructure is damaged. That sets the third logistical limit.
We need to get Army and Navy engineers on site to rebuild. Now according to all reports there are already at least 7,000 military personnel there along with another 3,000 FEMA personnel. Those numbers are growing, and they are working hand over fist to fix the infrastructure as quickly as they can.
Those are only a few of the problems this kind of effort is facing, yet all those arm-chair advisors know what's best and what the government should be doing. :roll:
how about stop going into a frenzy, always assuming the worst...and try to exercise a little restraint? Reacting to MSM propaganda based on assumption bias isn't helping IMO. :coffeepap:
How about Trump just shuts the f*** up for a change?
I'm appalled at the off the wall reaction regarding relief efforts for Puerto Rico.
(trimmed for length)
Is there any bad thing that happens anywhere on the planet where the real victim isn't Donald Trump?
Have you noticed that no matter what happens around the world liberals squeak that trump is a jerk?
Is there any bad thing that happens anywhere on the planet where the real victim isn't Donald Trump?
How about Trump just shuts the f*** up for a change?
Yeah nothing's ever Trump's fault. Even though he apparently has the vocabulary of a five year old. "Big Water." Seriously? There was a Land Before Time movie with the same title! I watched when I was younger. It was about dinosaurs being scared to cross a big ocean.
Oh I see how it is. Don't critique this president for playing golf while US citizens are literally dying. Beautiful.
Captain Adverse,
Don’t you tire of being a Trump apologist!
Put all your points in your long post to one side for a moment, for the sake of argument.
I'm appalled at the off the wall reaction regarding relief efforts for Puerto Rico.
First it was a knee-jerk reaction to his "Ocean" tweet:
Trump slams Puerto Rico: ?They want everything to be done for them? | TheHill
Mass commentary on how juvenile his comment was, calling the water surrounding Puerto Rico "ocean water" when "everybody knows it is in the Caribbean Sea." Yuck yuck..."another idiot comment!" :roll:
1. As I pointed out in a thread, the term "Ocean" also applies to the entire contiguous body of salt water on this planet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Ocean
2. Look at any map of the area. Puerto Rico's northern shores are on the Atlantic Ocean and the southern coast borders the Caribbean Sea.
So on THIS point, Trump was apparently correct..
Next is the over-the-top response to this tweet:
Trump slams Puerto Rico: ?They want everything to be done for them? | TheHill
1. The President was clearly referring to the mayor of San Juan, and other "leaders;" NOT the general population of Puerto Rico. Only people pre-disposed to see things in the worst possible light could think he was "slamming Puerto Rico."
2. I have to shake my head in amazement at all those arm-chair generals and arm-chair disaster relief managers who they think they know better as to how relief efforts can and should be handled.
People keep saying "we are the greatest most powerful blah! blah! blah!" without the slightest understanding about supply and logistics, and how they might affect disaster relief.
In the first place, it DOES matter that Puerto Rico is an island, as it is located 1032 miles (855 nautical miles) from Miami Florida. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/distances.html?n=226
Unlike responding to disasters in Texas and Florida, Puerto Rico is only accessible by air or sea. That sets the first logistical limit.
In the second place, we don't have unlimited access to planes, ships, and supplies. That sets the second logistical limit
The government does not have immediate access to all the naval and air transport assets in it's arsenal, as the bulk of them are assigned strategic missions supporting our troops and commitments overseas. Calling them back takes time, and must be limited to those not necessary to maintaining our overseas obligations.
That leaves merchant marine and private airline assets. Yet these are for-profit assets already commuted to commercial duties. Business is about the bottom line, and usually prefers "token" charity that won't upset their income stream. To divert their assets for disaster relief would degrade other transportation commitments, and also cost the government money.
That money has to be allocated by Congress. Anyone notice how Congress was less than cooperative with Mr. Trump's efforts to allocate funds for Texas and Florida relief?
So, let's say we can gather enough planes and ships to start ferrying needs resources to the island, what do we face there? The island's infrastructure is damaged. That sets the third logistical limit.
We need to get Army and Navy engineers on site to rebuild. Now according to all reports there are already at least 7,000 military personnel there along with another 3,000 FEMA personnel. Those numbers are growing, and they are working hand over fist to fix the infrastructure as quickly as they can.
Those are only a few of the problems this kind of effort is facing, yet all those arm-chair advisors know what's best and what the government should be doing. :roll:
how about stop going into a frenzy, always assuming the worst...and try to exercise a little restraint? Reacting to MSM propaganda based on assumption bias isn't helping IMO. :coffeepap:
Well, according to some people, almost everything bad that happens can be laid at his feet...somehow. :coffeepap:
While I don't agree with the content of many of his tweets, or public statements; the fact is that he was not wrong on either of these responses. MSM misrepresented them as usual.
I never said nothing was his fault. However, it seems to me that some people tend to think everything is his fault. :shrug:
This again? Aside from a red herring (or perhaps a straw man point) I thought someone pointed out in a different thread Obama's penchant for golfing during major issues?
Putting all the points aside is a diversion and an attempt to derail this thread. So no, I won't put them aside.
Stick to the point if you want a response.
Well, according to some people, almost everything bad that happens can be laid at his feet...somehow. :coffeepap:
Have you noticed that no matter what happens around the world liberals squeak that trump is a jerk?
I'm appalled at the off the wall reaction regarding relief efforts for Puerto Rico.
First it was a knee-jerk reaction to his "Ocean" tweet:
Trump slams Puerto Rico: ?They want everything to be done for them? | TheHill
Mass commentary on how juvenile his comment was, calling the water surrounding Puerto Rico "ocean water" when "everybody knows it is in the Caribbean Sea." Yuck yuck..."another idiot comment!" :roll:
1. As I pointed out in a thread, the term "Ocean" also applies to the entire contiguous body of salt water on this planet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Ocean
2. Look at any map of the area. Puerto Rico's northern shores are on the Atlantic Ocean and the southern coast borders the Caribbean Sea.
So on THIS point, Trump was apparently correct..
Next is the over-the-top response to this tweet:
Trump slams Puerto Rico: ?They want everything to be done for them? | TheHill
1. The President was clearly referring to the mayor of San Juan, and other "leaders;" NOT the general population of Puerto Rico. Only people pre-disposed to see things in the worst possible light could think he was "slamming Puerto Rico."
2. I have to shake my head in amazement at all those arm-chair generals and arm-chair disaster relief managers who they think they know better as to how relief efforts can and should be handled.
People keep saying "we are the greatest most powerful blah! blah! blah!" without the slightest understanding about supply and logistics, and how they might affect disaster relief.
In the first place, it DOES matter that Puerto Rico is an island, as it is located 1032 miles (855 nautical miles) from Miami Florida. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/distances.html?n=226
Unlike responding to disasters in Texas and Florida, Puerto Rico is only accessible by air or sea. That sets the first logistical...
That leaves merchant marine and private airline assets. Yet these are for-profit assets already commuted to commercial duties. Business is about the bottom line, and usually prefers "token" charity that won't upset their income stream. To divert their assets for disaster relief would degrade other transportation commitments, and also cost the government money.
That money has to be allocated by Congress. Anyone notice how Congress was less than cooperative with Mr. Trump's efforts to allocate funds for Texas and Florida relief?
So, let's say we can gather enough planes and ships to start ferrying needs resources to the island, what do we face there? The island's infrastructure is damaged. That sets the third logistical limit.
We need to get Army and Navy engineers on site to rebuild. Now according to all reports there are already at least 7,000 military personnel there along with another 3,000 FEMA personnel. Those numbers are growing, and they are working hand over fist to fix the infrastructure as quickly as they can.
Those are only a few of the problems this kind of effort is facing, yet all those arm-chair advisors know what's best and what the government should be doing. :roll:
how about stop going into a frenzy, always assuming the worst...and try to exercise a little restraint? Reacting to MSM propaganda based on assumption bias isn't helping IMO. :coffeepap:
This again? Aside from a red herring (or perhaps a straw man point) I thought someone pointed out in a different thread Obama's penchant for golfing during major issues?
And then the people suffering from Trump derangement syndrome would accuse him of ignoring the plight of Puerto Ricans. How about the people who are using a national tragedy to score political points on the backs of victims shut the **** up for a change?How about Trump just shuts the f*** up for a change?
Or we could take a step back and realize that instead of reassuring them about his dedication to efforts, or perhaps expanding them, the President went on a tirade blaming the people of Puerto Rico for their problems.
But that would require something more than idol worship; something that 80% of Republicans now seem incapable of rising above.
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I'm appalled at the off the wall reaction regarding relief efforts for Puerto Rico.
First it was a knee-jerk reaction to his "Ocean" tweet:
Trump slams Puerto Rico: ?They want everything to be done for them? | TheHill
Mass commentary on how juvenile his comment was, calling the water surrounding Puerto Rico "ocean water" when "everybody knows it is in the Caribbean Sea." Yuck yuck..."another idiot comment!" :roll:
1. As I pointed out in a thread, the term "Ocean" also applies to the entire contiguous body of salt water on this planet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Ocean
2. Look at any map of the area. Puerto Rico's northern shores are on the Atlantic Ocean and the southern coast borders the Caribbean Sea.
So on THIS point, Trump was apparently correct..
Next is the over-the-top response to this tweet:
Trump slams Puerto Rico: ?They want everything to be done for them? | TheHill
1. The President was clearly referring to the mayor of San Juan, and other "leaders;" NOT the general population of Puerto Rico. Only people pre-disposed to see things in the worst possible light could think he was "slamming Puerto Rico."
2. I have to shake my head in amazement at all those arm-chair generals and arm-chair disaster relief managers who they think they know better as to how relief efforts can and should be handled.
People keep saying "we are the greatest most powerful blah! blah! blah!" without the slightest understanding about supply and logistics, and how they might affect disaster relief.
In the first place, it DOES matter that Puerto Rico is an island, as it is located 1032 miles (855 nautical miles) from Miami Florida. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/distances.html?n=226
Unlike responding to disasters in Texas and Florida, Puerto Rico is only accessible by air or sea. That sets the first logistical limit.
In the second place, we don't have unlimited access to planes, ships, and supplies. That sets the second logistical limit
The government does not have immediate access to all the naval and air transport assets in it's arsenal, as the bulk of them are assigned strategic missions supporting our troops and commitments overseas. Calling them back takes time, and must be limited to those not necessary to maintaining our overseas obligations.
That leaves merchant marine and private airline assets. Yet these are for-profit assets already commuted to commercial duties. Business is about the bottom line, and usually prefers "token" charity that won't upset their income stream. To divert their assets for disaster relief would degrade other transportation commitments, and also cost the government money.
That money has to be allocated by Congress. Anyone notice how Congress was less than cooperative with Mr. Trump's efforts to allocate funds for Texas and Florida relief?
So, let's say we can gather enough planes and ships to start ferrying needs resources to the island, what do we face there? The island's infrastructure is damaged. That sets the third logistical limit.
We need to get Army and Navy engineers on site to rebuild. Now according to all reports there are already at least 7,000 military personnel there along with another 3,000 FEMA personnel. Those numbers are growing, and they are working hand over fist to fix the infrastructure as quickly as they can.
Those are only a few of the problems this kind of effort is facing, yet all those arm-chair advisors know what's best and what the government should be doing. :roll:
how about stop going into a frenzy, always assuming the worst...and try to exercise a little restraint? Reacting to MSM propaganda based on assumption bias isn't helping IMO. :coffeepap:
Or we could take a step back and realize that instead of reassuring them about his dedication to efforts, or perhaps expanding them, the President went on a tirade blaming the people of Puerto Rico for their problems.
But that would require something more than idol worship; something that 80% of Republicans now seem incapable of rising above.
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I never said nothing was his fault. However, it seems to me that some people tend to think everything is his fault. :shrug:
They deserved it, they are a failed people, too much like HAITI..... too much victims, not enough survivors.
They deserved it, they are a failed people, too much like HAITI..... too much victims, not enough survivors.
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