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House unanimously passes resolution calling for Mueller report on Trump to be made public

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House unanimously passes resolution calling for Mueller report on Trump to be made public

I was extremely heartened upon reading the headline, and finding it was indeed a truly bi-partisan unanimous effort! But my elation was tempered as I read a bit, and saw the resolution was non-binding. Then it was crushed, when reading further I found the Senate will likely not be taking up the measure! (the last paragraph in my quote)

Why? Why would McConnell not take up the resolution? And how could the two congressional chambers be so far apart on this? A unanimous vote in one chamber, and a tabling in the other, is about as far apart as can be possible.

I have my theory (to perhaps share below).
 

The headline is (to borrow a terms so frequently bandied about here) "a lie" because the resolution was NOT "passed unanimously" - FOUR PEOPLE did not vote in favour of it.

Right?
 

Even if the House AND the Senate passed this resolution, it would stop at Trump. That means this is nothing more than political posturing.

But I have to ask: Do people REALLY want an AG that lets his actions be determined by politics? I know the Dems do. Heck, they had an entire administration that played politics during the Obama days, and they loved it.
 
Question to the group, does this not compromise what happens next? (If anything, depending on what is in the report.)
 

Beat 'ya to it by 2 minutes. LOL.
 

No it wouldn't. It would continue with the Judiciary Committee. The head of that committee has the right to obtain the report, and he has stated that he would read it into the Congressional Record, thus making it public.
 
danarhea said:
No it wouldn't. It would continue with the Judiciary Committee. The head of that committee has the right to obtain the report, and he has stated that he would read it into the Congressional Record, thus making it public.
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That committee will get the report that Barr gives them...likely the same summary he makes public himself.

Nadler, the head of the Judiciary Committee doesn't have the clearance to get the full, unredacted report.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
The headline is (to borrow a terms so frequently bandied about here) "a lie" because the resolution was NOT "passed unanimously" - FOUR PEOPLE did not vote in favour of it.

Right?
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It's definitely debatable.

(but I had similar thoughts to yours)
 
Well, the House does have certain constitutional powers over the DOJ. It's an Article One, "we the people" thing.

And Congress is inherently political. There's no way around it; it's embedded & intrinsic within the very process of public representation.
 
danarhea said:
Beat 'ya to it by 2 minutes. LOL.
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Hardee Har Har! :2razz:

(I even checked the new posts' front-page side bar, before I posted, but yours hadn't shown up yet)
 

There you go... You have pinned down their true motivations.
 
Mycroft said:
That committee will get the report that Barr gives them...likely the same summary he makes public himself.

Nadler, the head of the Judiciary Committee doesn't have the clearance to get the full, unredacted report.
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No, the report would be the Mueller Report itself, which, after redactions for national security purposes, will be read directly into the Congressional Record. The Chairman of the Judiciary Committee has the right to obtain it directly from the Special Counsel, so we won't be seeing any watered down version of it, and nothing will be hidden from the public.
 

The "we the people" thing applies to all three branches.

If there are laws (constitutional reasons) that prevent the report from being outright relessed to the public, then Congress can't order the DOJ to ignore those laws.
 

If that were true, we wouldn't be watching the House waste time with this useless resolution.
 

You didn't answer my question. I was asking about what the AG should do.
 

Sorry, but you are wrong. There is no law that says Barr has to give the Judiciary Committee anything.

They'll take what they get.
 
Mycroft said:
You didn't answer my question. I was asking about what the AG should do.
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Barr should make public all he safely & legally can.

In addition, Trump should order it so; he has the power to declassify whatever he wants, and has shown a willingness to do so in other matters.

If I were the Dems, I'd run on making the report public.
 
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