PogueMoran
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Oh, a "finalized bill" :roll:
I told you, ALL of your semantic antics and attempts to rename are covered by "THE THING". Thats why I invented "THE THING". To account forand pre-emptively include any bait n switch or added word technicality ploys you might attempt.
The very nature of "THE THING" is that it eliminates your opportunity to employ your semantic antics.
Obama lied, on Wednesday, about what was or was not in "THE THING" on Wednesday.
No time travel, No semantic antics, so you are all out of escape moves.
There's nothing semantic about it.
There's nothing semantic about it. Do I really have to bust out the jailhouse rock video for you about how a bill comes about since you don't seem to understand how the process works.
Preemptively include? This isn't a bait and switch. You're talking about a draft bill which has yet to come out of committee. Until then there's nothing set in stone. You seem to think that somehow Obama talking about something in the future that hasn't happened yet somehow applies to a bill that's always changing.
Obama didn't lie on wednesday even with your enforcement BS no illegal immigrants have gotten coverage from the health reform efforts. Until that happens there is no long. Keep trying to fancy it up. Your argument continues to lack merit.
SCHOOLHOUSE Rock, champ, and I think maybe you should watch it yourself if you think it refutes anything he said.
And yes, you ARE saying you can't criticize a bill until it's in "final form," which I suppose means it's being voted on.
But by the time the vote comes up, it's too late.
I really do NOT get where this idiotic notion that you can't criticize a bill until there's no possible chance that something might be changed come from. I just don't. It's one of the dumbest non-arguments I've seen in recent years.
Obviously you have no idea how a bill works then. It doesn't just get voted on once it comes out of committee. Usually the house and senate have several different bills they propose once they get out of committee, from there the bill is worked, amended and usually the house and senate try to come to a concensus then they vote on it. This is a far cry from the draft being kicked around in the finance committee.
There is plenty of possible chance to look at the bill when it comes out of committee it just goes to show you know less about legislation than you do about the english language which I have repeated to you over and over again. Just because an argument goes over your head doesn't make it dumb just something you cannot grasp. Hence why you keep trying to make it not about his statement but about some delusional do all end all amendment you are clueless as to how it works.
Any bill in any written, introduced form
Right, and your handle on comprehending what I wrote is rock-solid.
I'll make it simple.
Any bill in any written, introduced form is up for criticism on any level at any point along the legislative process. Period. An argument that you have to "wait" for anything is simply stupid.
No its not stupid when his statement was that people say that his health care efforts will insure illegal aliens and him saying that's false. For his statement to be a lie illegal aliens would have to be insured under his health care efforts. Its not rocket science harshaw.
And you guys aren't criticizing the draft bill you're calling the president a liar based on something that hasn't happened yet
Since when does the sargeant at arms work for the prez?
Never said he did.
The sgt. at arms is like any other police officer, but part of his job is to enforce house rules - Which prohibit outburst like Rep. Wilson's.
You want to rephrase that?Wilson apologized to the president and the president could have had the Sgt. at arms remove him from the house after the out burst but he felt it wasn't necessary.
The rest of the congress needs to do what the president did and let this go.
Semantic antics and timetravel shenanigans.
Obama lied, on Wednesday, about what was or not in "THE THING" on Wednesday.
So in other words you can't prove he lied
. Again until Illegal Immigrants get coverage under health care reform there was no lie no matter how much you keep wishing for there to be.
Obama: Legalize illegals to get them health care
Obama: Legalize illegals to get them health care - Washington Times
President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.
He also staked out a position that anyone in the country legally should be covered - a major break with the 1996 welfare reform bill, which limited most federal public assistance programs only to citizens and longtime immigrants.
"Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don't simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken," Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. "That's why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else.
Mr. Obama added, "If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all."
The status of "THE THING" on Wednesday, and his false statements, regarding what was or was not in "THE THING", on the same Wednesday, prove it for me.
You realize what I posted above that burns you to the ground right ?
did any one else have to look up the word admonish
You sure as hell didn't read your own article.
Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don't simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken," Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. "That's why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else.
Mr. Obama added, "If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all."
I certainly did.
Again his statement wasn't a lie
Obama lied, on Wednesday, about what was or was not in "THE THING", on Wednesday. Joe Wilson called him on it, and Obama and the Dems backed down.
No illegal immigrants have received coverage
And they won't, thanks to Joe Wilson.
And they won't, thanks to Joe Wilson.
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