Baltimore Sun said:The Democratic-controlled House voted today to increase the federal minimum wage to $7.25 an hour, bringing America's lowest-paid workers a crucial step closer to their first raise in a decade.
The vote was 315-116.
"You should not be relegated to poverty if you work hard and play by the rules," said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. He said that passing the boost "is simply a matter of doing what's right, what's just, and what's fair."
The bill was the second measure passed since Democrats took control of the House, ending more than a decade of Republican rule.
The measure, which now goes to the Senate, would raise the federal wage floor by $2.10 from its current $5.15 an hour in three steps over 26 months.
At least the Democrats are doing something. The minimum wage has me torn - $7.25 is, well, liberal, but $5.15 is too low for anyone to be making for any type of paid labor.
House OKs minimum wage increase - baltimoresun.com
Minimum wage depends on age here. Where I work, I get $18.46 an hour, as do all over the age of 21.
The lowest wage is about $8.50 for those still in school, the 15 year olds. Every year, their wages increase by around a dollar.
The lowest wage is about $8.50 for those still in school, the 15 year olds. Every year, their wages increase by around a dollar.
What if their performance as a worker decreases?
Perhaps you should focus more on your saying "the Democrats lied about Bi-partisanship!" the vote on this was 315-116, with more than 80 Republicans joining Democrats to pass it.
So what do you have to say about Bi-Partisanship now?
Perhaps you should focus more on your saying "the Democrats lied about Bi-partisanship!" the vote on this was 315-116, with more than 80 Republicans joining Democrats to pass it.
So what do you have to say about Bi-Partisanship now?
Minimum wage was easy...Wait until Stem Cell Research comes up.............
At least the Democrats are doing something. The minimum wage has me torn - $7.25 is, well, liberal, but $5.15 is too low for anyone to be making for any type of paid labor.
House OKs minimum wage increase - baltimoresun.com
I disagree that 7.25 is "Liberal". It gets the family out of poverty, supposedly, though I can't see how. I try to work out a budget on that amount, and I simply can't see how it can be done.
I have to say, I think you are absolutely right, NP.
I have already made up my mind about stem cell research, and I believe it should proceed. But, we need an honest, open discussion about this before it is permitted in the U.S. I hope the Democrats will lead the way (since they do have control) toward that discussion, and I hope Republicans will respond by engaging in a productive way.
But, you are right, the true test will be when the contentious issues are under consideration. I hope Liberals in this country will hold the Democrats to the campaign promises concerning bipartisanship.
That's crazy that all person's over 21 must make at least 50k a year.
But you see, the masses not living in poverty is counter productive to the maintenance of the hierarchical structure of our society.I disagree that 7.25 is "Liberal". It gets the family out of poverty, supposedly, though I can't see how. I try to work out a budget on that amount, and I simply can't see how it can be done.
I personally think we should exhaust research on adult stem cells before we start killing potential babies but we are getting off topic.......
Perhaps you should focus more on your saying "the Democrats lied about Bi-partisanship!" the vote on this was 315-116, with more than 80 Republicans joining Democrats to pass it.
So what do you have to say about Bi-Partisanship now?
The Democratic PartyIt is wrong to have millions of Americans working full-time and year-round and still living in poverty. At $5.15 an hour, a full-time minimum wage worker brings home $10,712 a year -nearly $6,000 below the poverty level for a family of three.
From the DNC website:
The Democratic Party
The above is based on rather convenient assumptions -- one person working 40hrs/week.
5.25x50hrs/wk = 288.75/wk = 15015/yr
Family of three?
2 working parents, one child?
Thats $30030/yr, which is more than $13,000 ABOVE the poverty rate for a family of 3.
Poverty in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dunno whats worse -- that the Dems lie to you people or that you people believe those lies.
From the DNC website:
The Democratic Party
The above is based on rather convenient assumptions -- one person working 40hrs/week.
5.25x50hrs/wk = 288.75/wk = 15015/yr
Family of three?
2 working parents, one child?
Thats $30030/yr, which is more than $13,000 ABOVE the poverty rate for a family of 3.
Poverty in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dunno whats worse -- that the Dems lie to you people or that you people believe those lies.
Lets see what else...From the DNC website:
The Democratic Party
The above is based on rather convenient assumptions -- one person working 40hrs/week.
5.25x50hrs/wk = 288.75/wk = 15015/yr
Family of three?
2 working parents, one child?
Thats $30030/yr, which is more than $13,000 ABOVE the poverty rate for a family of 3.
Poverty in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dunno whats worse -- that the Dems lie to you people or that you people believe those lies.
Lets see what else...
A family of 4, with 2 working parents?
They're more than $10,000 over poverty level.
A family of 5 with 2 working parents?
They;re more than $6000 over poverty level.
A family of 7 with 2 working parents?
They're $150 below poverty level.
So, 2 working parents making min wage have to have -5- kids before they're at poverty level.
What about a single person @ 40hrs/week?
$5.25x40/hrs/week = $210/week = $10920/yr
Thats $1120 over the poverty level!
(Note too that the Bush tax cuts lowered this person's income taxes by 50%)
Clearly, the Democrats have to put together fairly specific scenarios for their argument to have any meaning, rasing a legitimate question as to exactly how many people their argument applies to.
Lets see what else...
A family of 4, with 2 working parents?
They're more than $10,000 over poverty level.
A family of 5 with 2 working parents?
They;re more than $6000 over poverty level.
A family of 7 with 2 working parents?
They're $150 below poverty level.
So, 2 working parents making min wage have to have -5- kids before they're at poverty level.
What about a single person @ 40hrs/week?
$5.25x40/hrs/week = $210/week = $10920/yr
Thats $1120 over the poverty level!
(Note too that the Bush tax cuts lowered this person's income taxes by 50%)
Clearly, the Democrats have to put together fairly specific scenarios for their argument to have any meaning, rasing a legitimate question as to exactly how many people their argument applies to.
So your argument its OK that kids with a single parent making the minimum wage live in poverty and therefore we don't need to raise the min wage for that group?
So - liberals/Democrats -
What do you think of the DNC argument (noted above) for the "need" to raise minimum wage?
And thus why there are a large number of federal programs already in place to ease the difficulty of said single parents life.
However, if there is a single parent with two kids, there is either 1) A father that is paying child support, thus increasing the amount of revenue that that single parent is getting; 2) The single parents chooses to care more about pride then the outcome of her family, decides she wants not help from the husband, and thus needs to make due on her own as its not the governments responsibility to assure she leads a comfortable life; 3) she was unmarried, and has no actual contact with the father, of both kids, thus she is having to suffer from her own foolish mistakes.
Is it sad that the kids will not live a life of comfort? Sure. That's what private organizations and funds are for. Its not the job of the government to take care of every person.
On top of that, by raising the minimum wage, you may end up driving this woman into unemployment, thus giving her no income, because the job she was at couldn't afford to keep her on staff.
Nevermind the fact that most working people in the U.S. already don't earn the minimum wage. Only 0.6% of wage earners in this country ACTUALLY earn the minimum wage. A quarter of that 0.6% are people 16-19, typically not those "supporting a family". 60% of the ones that are earning the minimum wage or less are doing so in bars and restaurants where they gain tips, that are generally untaxed, that in reality generally raises them above the minimum.
By going with the "One parent making minimum wage with two children" route, you're simply taking an extreme circumstance that is NOT the common thing happening out there, and trying to use that to justify something that would be harmful and detrimental to the majority of the rest of Americans.
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