the "without voting" on it part, doesn't bother you?Good. It's about time the Democrats grew some stones, kicked the Party of No out of the way and got done what needed to be done.
Oh, so breaking protocol and most probably the law is fine as long as you agree with the issue? Do you want to go on the record as saying that?Good. It's about time the Democrats grew some stones, kicked the Party of No out of the way and got done what needed to be done.
At this point, I dont care. I just want to see some progress made on the healthcare problem.the "without voting" on it part, doesn't bother you?
Hey it was ok the last 8 years.Oh, so breaking protocol and most probably the law is fine as long as you agree with the issue? Do you want to go on the record as saying that?
Fine, hope you know because it breaks protocol, it'll go to the courts.At this point, I dont care. I just want to see some progress made on the healthcare problem.
Im afraid you can't use that as an excuse....sorry.Hey it was ok the last 8 years.
Regretfully I have to use this source as the link.
Link
House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it
I have no doubt the Mods will move this posting claiming either it is not from a reputable source (which fact I concur)
Or they will claim it is not breaking news.
I am posting this story because I would like to know how other people feel about what I see as a deliberate attempt to circumnavigate what small amount of Democracy remains in the USA.
From your own source:
"The tactic -- known as a "self-executing rule" or a "deem and pass" -- has been commonly used, although never to pass legislation as momentous as the $875 billion health-care bill."
They are still voting on the bill. They are voting on a bill that approves the bill. If someone doesn't like the bill all they need to do is vote against it. There is nothing illegal.
Right wingers will cry about anything, lol.
Get over it.
This bill is only going to make things worse. You are backing the wrong horse.At this point, I dont care. I just want to see some progress made on the healthcare problem.
Examples?Hey it was ok the last 8 years.
Y'know, I dont give a damn anymore, I really dont. I wish I could say I do but I just really dont. I'm so sick of people WITH health insurance crying about how we dont NEED to fix the system, there's nothing WRONG with it! At this point I really dont care anymore, I want something to happen, I want to know that I can go to the hospital without worrying about "Are they going to kick me out because I have no health insurance?" or that I'm going to get a med student for a doctor because I cant pay. Walk into a hospital with no insurance, it's a REAL eye opening experience let me tell you.This bill is only going to make things worse. You are backing the wrong horse.
Warrantless wiretapping, PATRIOT, for starters.Examples?
Passed by a full house, with a real vote. Try again.Warrantless wiretapping, PATRIOT, for starters.
Passed by a full house, with a real vote. Try again.
We're not talking about leverage, we're talking about a huge ass bill being squeezed through without even a vote! :dohLEVERAGED through
They dont care how the bill is passed, so long as it is passed.the "without voting" on it part, doesn't bother you?
You do know that the -only- thing holding up the bill is the unwillingness of DEMS to vote 'yes', right?Good. It's about time the Democrats grew some stones, kicked the Party of No out of the way and got done what needed to be done.
Y'know, I dont give a damn anymore, I really dont. I wish I could say I do but I just really dont. I'm so sick of people WITH health insurance crying about how we dont NEED to fix the system, there's nothing WRONG with it! At this point I really dont care anymore, I want something to happen, I want to know that I can go to the hospital without worrying about "Are they going to kick me out because I have no health insurance?" or that I'm going to get a med student for a doctor because I cant pay. Walk into a hospital with no insurance, it's a REAL eye opening experience let me tell you.
but obama just won't let his sick little obsession go
It needs to again be made clear that the only reason the bill hasn't been passed in the house is that DEMS wont vote for it because their constituants do not want it; all of the ideas floated to pass the bill through 'creative means' illustrates the Dem leadership's desire to pass a bill by any and every means possible, the opinion of the Americna people notwitstanding.At this point, the only option Obama and Pelosi have is to agree to reconcile the bill after the bill and try to win approval, then STAB THOSE DEMOCRATS IN THE BACKS AFTER OBAMA SIGNS IT, and never take it to reconciliation.
If it goes to reconciliation, the Republicans can propose as many amendments as they want to and stall it until the November elections.
The only way Pelosi and Obama can save any face is to put it in reconciliation, then blame the Republicans for obstructing the bill. But I don't think the Democrats TRUST Obama and Pelosi to actually do what they said they'd do and reconcile after the fact.
Y'know, I dont give a damn anymore, I really dont. I wish I could say I do but I just really dont. I'm so sick of people WITH health insurance crying about how we dont NEED to fix the system, there's nothing WRONG with it! At this point I really dont care anymore, I want something to happen, I want to know that I can go to the hospital without worrying about "Are they going to kick me out because I have no health insurance?" or that I'm going to get a med student for a doctor because I cant pay. Walk into a hospital with no insurance, it's a REAL eye opening experience let me tell you.
Warrantless wiretapping, PATRIOT, for starters.
Do you HONESTLY trust the federal government to run health care? Do you trust them to NOT put a bunch of NON healthcare related pork in the legislation?
They've already put a student-aid bill in this healthcare bill and extended the Nebraska kickback to all 50 states. With all the backroom arm-twisting going on right now, I shudder to think what else is being added.
I've never seen such a den of thieves as this leadership. It's like giving the reins to Al Capone and his cronies.
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