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It depends on the situation. If you're going to fight a battle, do it because the risk / reward is favorable. The risk here is immediate damage to the country in exchange for angry conservatives to get what? Satisfaction that we all had to listen to their tantrum? When its over things go back to the way they were before it started minus the economic losses we sustained. Its a lose / lose.
The games are played one at a time, and each team creates its own identity...
it truely sickens me when the well being of a human being is worth less then profit.
There is a legitimate disagreement as to which policies would harm the country. One already has been proven to do so...
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Friday night before Colorado State at home?
You guys play every other weekend all season.
There is a legitimate disagreement as to which policies would harm the country. One already has been proven to do so...
Let's all take a deep breath and remember that THIS IS THE YEAR 2013. We didn't get flying cars, but did anyone think that at this point we still couldn't figure out an operational way of providing people with health care when they need it?
What? Yeah shutting down the government has been proven to be harmful to the country.
Are you suggesting Obamacare has been proven to overall be harmful to the country?
health insurance makes profits when people don't get sick. they are gambling on the fact that someone will not get sick.
Is a law a policy?
Since the Repubs have already stated their wish to kill Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security,
this would set a precedent NO President would allow.
I now must call it a tie for first between Voting Wrongs Acts and Defunding Laws.
I'm suggesting that a 35 year low in labor participation along with more part-time work has been a detriment to the overall economy. It is also noteworthy that companies are now beginning to offload their employees to the newly created, although not ready for prime time, exchanges...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/19/u...l=1&adxnnlx=1379520833-M0U+hZzlocDrMbeP5FlRag
House Bill Cuts Health Funds, Raising Odds of U.S. Shutdown
By JONATHAN WEISMAN and ASHLEY PARKER
Published: September 18, 2013
WASHINGTON — House Republican leaders — bowing to the demands of their conservative wing — will put to a vote on Friday a stopgap spending measure that would strip all funding from President Obama’s signature health care law, increasing the likelihood that the government will shut down in two weeks.
So what's going on here? Another defeat Obamacare vote? And will this shut down the government like in the 90's? If so, will it come back to bite the Republicans in the a**?
Why the urgency to defeat this "train wreck"? If that's what this is, why not let it fail and bring down its Democratic authors? Republicans have shown they can play politics with the welfare of the American people by threatening the full faith and credit of the country, so why not let the law destroy itself, then sweep in and take the credit for predicting it?
My question is, do Republicans fear that ACA will not be the disaster they predict, or even worse, a success, and are trying to sabotage it before they look bad for opposing it? Or is this just a stunt to appease their radical right wing? "Obamacare delenda est"?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/19/u...l=1&adxnnlx=1379520833-M0U+hZzlocDrMbeP5FlRag
House Bill Cuts Health Funds, Raising Odds of U.S. Shutdown
By JONATHAN WEISMAN and ASHLEY PARKER
Published: September 18, 2013
WASHINGTON — House Republican leaders — bowing to the demands of their conservative wing — will put to a vote on Friday a stopgap spending measure that would strip all funding from President Obama’s signature health care law, increasing the likelihood that the government will shut down in two weeks.
So what's going on here? Another defeat Obamacare vote? And will this shut down the government like in the 90's? If so, will it come back to bite the Republicans in the a**?
Why the urgency to defeat this "train wreck"? If that's what this is, why not let it fail and bring down its Democratic authors? Republicans have shown they can play politics with the welfare of the American people by threatening the full faith and credit of the country, so why not let the law destroy itself, then sweep in and take the credit for predicting it?
My question is, do Republicans fear that ACA will not be the disaster they predict, or even worse, a success, and are trying to sabotage it before they look bad for opposing it? Or is this just a stunt to appease their radical right wing? "Obamacare delenda est"?
Insurance companies DO NOT GAMBLE. They have actuaries that calculate the the risk and they use that to decide how much the premium would cost. And they do expect that there will be some cost in coverage.
No one is trying to kill those programs linc...
Not according to the Republicans I see speak.
They are the ones pulling the House strings.
They won't be happy until we are pre-FDR.
Good luck to all of us then.
The oncoming train wreck that is the ACA should be stopped before it hits the wall because when it does we all lose.
The oncoming train wreck that is the ACA should be stopped before it hits the wall because when it does we all lose.
Is a law a policy?
Since the Repubs have already stated their wish to kill Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security,
this would set a precedent NO President would allow.
I now must call it a tie for first between Voting Wrongs Acts and Defunding Laws.
I'm suggesting that a 35 year low in labor participation along with more part-time work has been a detriment to the overall economy. It is also noteworthy that companies are now beginning to offload their employees to the newly created, although not ready for prime time, exchanges...
Others argue that it will be more good than bad.
Doesn't change the problem here that the GOP wants to shut down the government in protest.
Others argue that it will be more good than bad.
Doesn't change the problem here that the GOP wants to shut down the government in protest.
Can you show which party would be definitively responsible? I don't think you can...
Another way to put it is the democrats want to shut down government over job killing Obamacare.
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