EpicDude86
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I was in high school 40 years ago, graduated in 1970. I did much worse also, on my own. The school did not aid or abet me in the decisions, and they were correct then, and they are correct now to suspend the teacher.
What students choose to do on their own is just that, their own. The school's responsibility is to promote wholesome environments for the kids. Hooters is not it, as the restaurant admits is main concept is "sex appeal". The fact that some teens go there in no way makes it a good decision for the school, as you and I both admit as teens we made choices that were worse than those the school would have made. The school should not have supported our poor decisions then, nor should it today. The day the school administrators start letting the students set the policies of wholesome behavior, they are doomed. Can't have it, the kids are not old enough to make good decisions all the time, as you and I admit we didn't make good decisions all the time.
Can we really compare 1970's High School and Societal Norms and Taboos with this situation. A lot has changed in 40 years. But then again one could say a lot hasn't changed as well.
This is where I think people are making the wrong turn. The question is not about "norms", but about parental rights. Whether Hooter's is a family restaurant, or whether it is appropriate for kids is entirely up to parents. I would not object in this case, but the next time a teacher assumes, it might be something I do object to.
No, I am saying that the school should get permission from the parents first.
So any time that school kids go on a school trip you would require parental permission before they eat in any establishment that serves liquor?
Seriously?
I guess Sizzler is out then.
Even pizza joints sell alcohol.
This is where I think people are making the wrong turn. The question is not about "norms", but about parental rights. Whether Hooter's is a family restaurant, or whether it is appropriate for kids is entirely up to parents. I would not object in this case, but the next time a teacher assumes, it might be something I do object to.
It was inappropriate. Furthermore, just because students can do it with their friends is hardly a justification for the behavior of the educator. The educator is held to a higher standard of propriety, and as such, has to acknowledge the intellectual and extracurricular barriers involved in education. A high school age student certainly has the ability to go to a movie theater containing a rated R film, but showing the same film in class rightly has added constraints and a justification for its showing.
Not only are teachers upheld to intellectual standards for themselves and their students, but also as role model. The education system responds in part to the demands of its parents and community.
Was the punishment harsh? Perhaps. Does the notion of punishment make sense? Absolutely.
Sounds like you don't want the schools to do anything. Seriously....I was joking when I said make the kids pack their own meals for every trip...but it sounds like that is what you are suggesting.
I hope this wasn't already posted. I scrolled thru and didn't see it.
From Hooters website:
The element of female sex appeal is prevalent in the restaurants, and the company believes the Hooters Girl is as socially acceptable as a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader, Sports Illustrated swimsuit model, or a Radio City Rockette...
Hooters characterizes itself as a neighborhood place, not a typical family restaurant. Sixty-eight percent of customers are male, most between the ages of 25-54. Hooters does not market itself to families, but they do patronize the restaurants. Ten percent of the parties we serve have children in them. Hooters is in the hospitality business and provides the best possible service to anyone coming through the door. For this reason, the chain offers a children's menu.
Hooters.com
So there you have it. Not a family restaurant. 90% of the parties don't bring kids. I think that teacher showed poor judgement. The teen boys probably loved it. Which is why it was poor judgement on her part. :lol: But she should have received a lighter punishment, imo.
Yeah, right. Their wings sucked every time I went to one (perhaps only 4-5 times). :lol:
I just kept thinking maybe I had a bad day or night. Nope. I just did not like the food!
Do you think the only reason Hooters stays in business is because of their waitresses?
You know, Hooters has other things besides waitresses. Maybe they went because they liked the wings. I know I've gone just to eat their wings.
Hey, that's exactly what I thought.
Maybe they wanted some beer with their wings, too, but they didn't get any. That teacher is just a disappointment all the way around.
lol
Also, why are people making a big deal out of the Hooters outfit? It's like something a volleyball player would wear.
I'm just relieved she didn't take them to the beach. They might have seen girls in bathing suits!!!
Hooters is a damn restaurant. People eat there all the time. How freaking up-tight do you have to be to get upset over something like this!?
you have seized on the crux of the matter
the teacher was suspended because the parent, and the school system, do not condone the attire worn by the hooters' waitresses
would forcing them to wear burkas make it better
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