kaya'08
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There are no warrants out for my arrest and I haven't committed any crimes. I shouldn't have to carry ID, is what I'm saying. There's a difference between "Hey, I think you might be the guy who robbed the bank yesterday" and "Hey, I think you might be here illegally." The first is a specific crime with a specific description of the suspect. The second is whatever the officer happens to think at that particular moment.
Do you think being asked to hold basic identification papers errodes your civil liberties?
Papiere, bitte.
Yes, I do think that. Hell, not everyone even has a driver's license. People shouldn't have to carry around something as sensitive as a social security card, birth certificate, or passport. How about children? It isn't uncommon for a 14 year old to lack any form of photo ID.
Papiere, bitte.
Yes, I do think that. Hell, not everyone even has a driver's license. People shouldn't have to carry around something as sensitive as a social security card, birth certificate, or passport. How about children? It isn't uncommon for a 14 year old to lack any form of photo ID.
What about you might lead someone to believe you are illegally in the Country?
Paranoia, look it up.
There are no warrants out for my arrest and I haven't committed any crimes. I shouldn't have to carry ID, is what I'm saying. There's a difference between "Hey, I think you might be the guy who robbed the bank yesterday" and "Hey, I think you might be here illegally." The first is a specific crime with a specific description of the suspect. The second is whatever the officer happens to think at that particular moment.
You seem uptight with cops asking a few questions, using their cop skills, sorting out who they are dealing with, and then demanding proof of immigration status of those that are at EPIC FAIL status at questioning..
I am against legal citizens or residents being detained for the sole "crime" of not having identification on them, yes.
I am against legal citizens or residents being detained for the sole "crime" of not having identification on them, yes.
They would be detained for asx long as it takes to determine their residency. Which with modern computers and the like shouldn't take very long at all.
There are many cases in which it will still require a handcuffed ride down to the police station in the back of a squad car. It's not like they have full national database access on their blackberries or something.
Laptop with internet. Radio to teh station. Cell phone to Dispatch....
You = Paranoid.
There are many cases in which it will still require a handcuffed ride down to the police station in the back of a squad car. It's not like they have full national database access on their blackberries or something.
Seriously, the fact that the Obama admin, and the rest of the left are going banana ape **** over this makes me like this bill a hell of alot more
This is basically the definition of partisanism, but ok.
If Arizona doesn't do something, its just going to get worse and worse, because Washington isnt going to do anything about it.
I am against legal citizens or residents being detained for the sole "crime" of not having identification on them, yes.
For the 3,986th time the law clearly states the police must be investigating another crime before they can ask about legal status.
A lawful stop to issue a jaywalking ticket or speeding ticket ends once I have the ticket in my hand. Not true if the officer decides that I might be illegally in the country and my driver's license happens to be from New Mexico. I have rights, even during a lawful stop.
A lawful stop to issue a jaywalking ticket or speeding ticket ends once I have the ticket in my hand. Not true if the officer decides that I might be illegally in the country and my driver's license happens to be from New Mexico. I have rights, even during a lawful stop.
Now you're being a "Troll". It's all ready been proven to you, in black and white, that any state ID will suffice, yet your provided talking points state to ignore the truth and keep pushing the LIE that only AZ DL will be accepted.
You should talk to your employer about getting you less easily debunked talking points to use.
Thats right but if you are legal you have nothing to fear.
It hasn't been proven to me, no. Remember that discussion on the word "if?" You never did explain why that phrase was there.
Having a different interpretation of something isn't trolling.
IF THE ENTITY REQUIRES
PROOF OF LEGAL PRESENCE IN THE UNITED
STATES BEFORE ISSUANCE,
ANY VALID UNITED STATES FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL
GOVERNMENT ISSUED IDENTIFICATION.
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