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I just find it very amusing your post calls out partisanship.
Hillary is clearly the democrats choice, and Paul has the only available nod from the Republican side. Assuming they are the R and D nominees who wins your vote?
I just find it very amusing your post calls out partisanship.
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Yes, calling out right-wing lies for what they are is just being "partisan." What a joke.
It would really depend on Paul's platform. Off hand, I'd say I'd likely vote 3rd party again. But if it were Hillary vs. Paul and Paul put together a cohesive and intelligent platform that played to some libertarian values...I may be persuaded to vote for him instead. But it's too early to tell for sure.
It's called hypocrisy. Here's a link:
Hypocrite - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
"What difference at this point does it make..."
And what left-wing lies am I peddling? Go ahead, show me what you got.
That's a nice strawman - I think YOU were the one claiming I'm peddling lies. I'm stating your hypocrisy as claiming to defend the "right wing lies" but not pointing out "left wing lies" which there are many on DP. My other claim was your posts have been claiming some sort of moderate stance, when in reality, you outed yourself as nothing more than another poster with far left wing claims, disparaging with zero fact or logical argument, over an hour of video which you claimed was "crafted". Why? Because Cashill contributes to the hated WND, of which I wasn't aware. You're slanderous posts based on nothing but association, was enough. The argument Cashill makes is valid - that upset you. Now you post wanting to pick a fight what... so I get an infraction? :roll:
Such tactics won't work on me. So please... please... go ahead an ignore me. Yet you keep coming back for more. That says volumes. Anyway, have a nice night.
Since you seem anti-NSA excesses in your posts, R. Paul is your man.
He would be the leader of the Amash 4th amendment coalition, which includes DEM socialists/liberals like Sen. Sanders .
The NSA should probably just be Waco-ed. But I'd need a bit more than one issue if I were to vote for a Republocrat.
There are clearly several issues where new coalitions have formed between the two parties.
We just saw a weaker form of female protection from rape pass 97-0.
Sen. Paul supported Sen. Gillibrand's version which would have taken jurisdiction from the Generals.
As Sen. Cruz tries to pick up the Reagan mantle, the rest of the GOP snickers as Paul smacked him around the last few days.
Sen. Paul is more seasoned in regards to not mocking "presidents" Dole, McCain and Romney, with Cruz adding they didn't have principle.
Coming out of CPAC with his ground forces winning 31-11 over Cruz, Paul is the clear GOP favorite.
His VP choice would make the difference with me, as it would Hillary, though I'd prefer a DEM governor .
We'll see. I'll need a complete platform and evidence that he's working towards it before I can vote for him. I don't discount voting for a Republocrat, but they're going to have to go above and beyond to capture my vote.
I understand your frustration when you use the term Republocrat.
I maintain the USA had entered a new regional/issue-oriented coalition of overlap between the two parties
on several issues even before the 2012s.
1. Amash amendment I mentioned once before.
2. Isolationist creep in both parties versus neo-cons in both parties.
3. Gun coalition with blue dogs that defeated by filibuster the Toomey/Manchin bill.
4. Keystone XL tearing apart Dems into energy/enviros.
5. Fast track has strong pro/con groups in each party.
6. Immigration/Sen. Rubio's clan has made strange bedfellows.
7. GOP Chairman Camp's Tax reform, which McConnell promptly shelved.
8. The GOP certainly has a greater split with GLBT issues.
These and oh so many more are why I believe we have a more malleable 2-party system than in 2011 .
Are you referring to Iraq and/or Afghanistan ?
Hillary is clearly the democrats choice, and Paul has the only available nod from the Republican side. Assuming they are the R and D nominees who wins your vote?
I'm absolutely shocked we agree
Honestly though, I'd be very happy with this. While I don't agree 100% with Paul, IF he managed to win the ticket he'd be the first person in memory on the biggest stage that I could see myself happy with enough to actively WANT to get involved. Huntsman would've caused that for me as well, but alas that abysmal primary stategy had him going no where.
The smears going off against Paul would definitely come in full force, but I think he's seemingly got enough "new blood" in him to embrace some of the changing realities of politics and hopefully get some people on board who know how to message and manage public perception in the 21st century to combat it. If he could leverage some of what worked with his father with the younger people in creating an '08 Obama-esque "socially trendy" feeling to his campaign, I could see him surprising some folks.
Hillary is clearly the democrats choice, and Paul has the only available nod from the Republican side. Assuming they are the R and D nominees who wins your vote?
Paul has and excellent chance if he gets the nomination to beat the "Wicked witch from the East"......Young voters love him and will comes out in masses for him.
You are talking about the wrong Paul. The Young voters don't care for the son.
Really Disney...do you have some evidence to back up your sentiment, or are you just spouting off opinion as fact? Have any polling data to sugggest youth voters don't like Rand Paul?
He's definitely seemingly popular with young conservatives. He just soundly won the CPAC straw poll, where 46% of attendees were between 18 and 25 (SOURCE). He won 52% of the 18-24 year old vote in his 2010 election win (Source).
While it may be too early to say that "young voters lov him and will come out in masses", it's also rather early and baseless to state that "The Young Voters don't care" for him without something to back up that assertion.
Really Disney...do you have some evidence to back up your sentiment, or are you just spouting off opinion as fact? Have any polling data to sugggest youth voters don't like Rand Paul?
He's definitely seemingly popular with young conservatives. He just soundly won the CPAC straw poll, where 46% of attendees were between 18 and 25 (SOURCE). He won 52% of the 18-24 year old vote in his 2010 election win (Source).
While it may be too early to say that "young voters lov him and will come out in masses", it's also rather early and baseless to state that "The Young Voters don't care" for him without something to back up that assertion.
Not talking about young CPAC conservative voters. Talking about young voters in general which NP was referencing. Rand Paul has yet to win over the young college Ron Paul voters.
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