Hegseth orders rare, urgent meeting of hundreds of generals, admirals

[bythoughts]

Liberals being liberals, they don't know and won't ever recognize the '24 election was the last free and fair election the people will ever have. Liberals think the '26 voting will be a normal times free and fair election. Au contraire, liberals are instead going to get what they deserve in the end. Good and hard.

This sounds more pessimistic than I thought you were before. But if Brazil could get back some sort of democracy after Bolsonaro, and Bolivia potentially may recover from whatever coup and betrayal game Arce was up to, why should the U.S. do worse?

If the U.S. continues on its current path, a number of severe shocks are likely to upset the status quo.

First, there's AI. Even during the current "honeymoon" period, when we're still asking the AI questions rather than the other way around, it isn't helping much with the economy. And the chips come from Taiwan. What happens to the biggest thing in business investment when Taiwan doesn't export its good stuff out of China?

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

This sounds more pessimistic than I thought you were before. But if Brazil could get back some sort of democracy after Bolsonaro, and Bolivia potentially may recover from whatever coup and betrayal game Arce was up to, why should the U.S. do worse?

If the U.S. continues on its current path, a number of severe shocks are likely to upset the status quo.

First, there's AI. Even during the current "honeymoon" period, when we're still asking the AI questions rather than the other way around, it isn't helping much with the economy. And the chips come from Taiwan. What happens to the biggest thing in business investment when Taiwan doesn't export its good stuff out of China?

Brazil, Bolivia are not stable democracies, heck South Korea was quite close to becoming a dictatorship just a few years ago.

The US has likely now entered a nonstable democracy stage where if elections are free, they will see massive swings between extremes

 

[Oozlefinch]

That order was given at the army base at Pearl Harbor after learning the planes were spread apart to avoid possible sabotage destroying all at once.

Oh wow, that is completely wrong.

That is actually the SOP for dispersing critical assets if there is a possibility of being attacked by conventional forces. You spread them out, so it is harder to take out large numbers of equipment. Be they aircraft, tanks, trucks, or ships.

However, Hawaii had a huge number of Japanese. As in almost 160,000. And the concern was not attack from outside forces, but sabotage. And to defend against that, you bunch the equipment together so it is easier to observe them and keep saboteurs away.

And it is still done in that way to this day.

 

[Tangmo]

This sounds more pessimistic than I thought you were before. But if Brazil could get back some sort of democracy after Bolsonaro, and Bolivia potentially may recover from whatever coup and betrayal game Arce was up to, why should the U.S. do worse?

If the U.S. continues on its current path, a number of severe shocks are likely to upset the status quo.

Brazil prosecutors are aggressive as are most third world prosecutors when they can get the upper hand.

The liberals Garland as AG and Biden as Potus being scared of their own shadow failed miserably to do a timely prosecution of Trump. This is but one significant failure of the Democratic party since 2015.

USA liberals have been an ongoing disaster against Trump-MAGAs since 2015. From the outset liberals failed to recognize their mortal enemy the fascists as the fascists that they are. Liberals still think the '26 election will be free and fair which marks the continued and continuing failure of the liberals misperceptions of who Trump & MAGAs are and want and are capable of seizing and imposing.

You can point to any country at any time and pose the glib question 'If they can do it so can we." No, we cannot. The Constitution turns out to be the wide open fascist path to power. The liberals continue to be oblivious of the fact and of its unmistakable implications. Liberals insist on continuing to muddle along in a 50-50 country who's experiment in democracy has failed.


There is no status quo, there is only the ongoing chaos.

The coming severe shocks will become a sinkhole into which the USA will disappear. Previous severe shocks did not have a mob of insane idiots running the federal government from one end to the other and using their legal power to control the corporations and financial systems. In 2008 for instance the Fed acted traditionally and historically to see the economy and financial system thought the long haul of recovery. Severe shocks from this point on however will have Trump the idiot moron in complete charge of what will be a his and the nation's final catastrophe.

 

[rhinefire]

Oh wow, that is completely wrong.

That is actually the SOP for dispersing critical assets if there is a possibility of being attacked by conventional forces. You spread them out, so it is harder to take out large numbers of equipment. Be they aircraft, tanks, trucks, or ships.

However, Hawaii had a huge number of Japanese. As in almost 160,000. And the concern was not attack from outside forces, but sabotage. And to defend against that, you bunch the equipment together so it is easier to observe them and keep saboteurs away.

And it is still done in that way to this day.

The order was given to reduce the efforts to avoid sabotage thinking grouping them would make it easier. Of course no one knew Dec. 7 was coming but the fact remains had the planes been spread out they would not have been ten pins waiting for a bowling ball.

 

[Tangmo]

First, there's AI. Even during the current "honeymoon" period, when we're still asking the AI questions rather than the other way around, it isn't helping much with the economy. And the chips come from Taiwan. What happens to the biggest thing in business investment when Taiwan doesn't export its good stuff out of China?

The United States military will destroy the Taiwan microchip infrastructure and everything that goes with it to include scientists.

Biden's National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan denies he said it but he did say the US military would demolish the microchip industry on Taiwan rather than submit to the CCP gaining possession of it. While TSMC is constructing several multibillion dollar each production facilities in Japan, two in the USA and in Germany, TSMC and its paired down HQ will remain on Taiwan.

Indeed, the CCP gaining possession and control of the Taiwan microchip industry would be like one country having control of all the oil and gas resources of the Earth. CCP cannot be permitted to do this with Taiwan's microchip industry. We know too the Generalissimo Trump luvs to blow things up and he gets really jacked up when bloodshed and body parts becomes a factor.

 

[Peter]

Here's a thought.

What if he just wants to say a big well done to them all?
That would be unexpected and nice.

 

[Oozlefinch]

Of course no one knew Dec. 7 was coming but the fact remains had the planes been spread out they would not have been ten pins waiting for a bowling ball.

One also has to look at what was expected as the start of the war.

The US was fully expecting Japan to kick off the war as they had been gaming it out for years. The way that War Plan Orange was intended as a response. And that was an all-out attack against the Philippines.

And even though Major Earl Ellis USMC had predicted a Japanese attack on Hawaii (which at the time was not the home of the Pacific Fleet) with aircraft two decades before, nobody took it seriously. The entire US belief is that Pearl Harbor was safe from air attack because of the shallow waters, and they though Japan would not risk sending out so many of their ships on a raid and not concentrate on the real threat which was the Philippines.

And sabotage was a very real threat. Both in WWI and WWII there were a great many acts of sabotage against the US military. And if Japan had not attacked and instead had saboteurs attack Hawaii being spread out the damage could have been just as bad.

One simply can not try to backdate decisions made and be taken at all seriously. That is an attempt at rewriting history, and is always wrong.

 

[Oozlefinch]

Here's a thought.

What if he just wants to say a big well done to them all?
That would be unexpected and nice.

Does not matter, whatever the Orange Man says is absolutely wrong and evil, no matter what.

To me, I am honestly laughing at the amount of TDS on full display. And to be absolutely honest, I think the President is in many ways purposefully trolling them and laughing his ass off at how they are knee-jerking all over the place.

 

[rhinefire]

Does not matter, whatever the Orange Man says is absolutely wrong and evil, no matter what.

To me, I am honestly laughing at the amount of TDS on full display. And to be absolutely honest, I think the President is in many ways purposefully trolling them and laughing his ass off at how they are knee-jerking all over the place.

Serious Question: I'm 77 and I can never recall knowing or seeing any person of any age doing anything so hideously obvious to their own appearance as our freak in the white house. Knowing that he believes this is somehow acceptable or natural as a world leader is terrifying because it is proof he is lost. Can anyone imagine him looking like this in the 50s? He could be on the panel at the McCarthy hearings!