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Gee I thought the right was always squawking about free speech. I wonder if the same type of language that is used in Hip Hop was used Country (the typical choice of music for your average red state putz) music the Senate would be wasting its time. I just love how our pathetic government knows what its priorities are. So I wonder how long till the next violent video game hearing. Jesus Christ
CTV.ca | U.S. Congress examines hip-hop language, tone
Gee I thought the right was always squawking about free speech. I wonder if the same type of language that is used in Hip Hop was used Country (the typical choice of music for your average red state putz) music the Senate would be wasting its time. I just love how our pathetic government knows what its priorities are. So I wonder how long till the next violent video game hearing. Jesus Christ
CTV.ca | U.S. Congress examines hip-hop language, tone
Gee I thought the right was always squawking about free speech. I wonder if the same type of language that is used in Hip Hop was used Country (the typical choice of music for your average red state putz) music the Senate would be wasting its time. I just love how our pathetic government knows what its priorities are. So I wonder how long till the next violent video game hearing. Jesus Christ
CTV.ca | U.S. Congress examines hip-hop language, tone
ironically enough, the "censor violent video games" movement is primarily the hobbyhorse of the Left, while the "ban obscene lyrics" movement is primarily a Right-wing agenda.
The Left, you see, wants to censor violence.
The Right wants to censor sex.
Both agendas are based on the same erroneous principle: that seeing or hearing these things in popular entertainment will encourage people to do them, who wouldn't have otherwise.
Silliness.
Rappers are the product of guys in business suits. Everybody blames them. What they fail to see is that these "gangstas" are backed by dudes like Jimmy Iovine and the guys who run the Universal Music Group. Do you honestly think Russel Simmons runs anything? Do people really think Dr. Dre runs aftermath? Do people honestly think Jay-Z plays a key role in the decisions made by Def Jam? :rofl . Blame the people who put them there. Not the rappers themselves.
They're just ponds.
chevydriver1123 said:Gee I thought the right was always squawking about free speech. I wonder if the same type of language that is used in Hip Hop was used Country (the typical choice of music for your average red state putz) music the Senate would be wasting its time. I just love how our pathetic government knows what its priorities are. So I wonder how long till the next violent video game hearing. Jesus Christ
ironically enough, the "censor violent video games" movement is primarily the hobbyhorse of the Left, while the "ban obscene lyrics" movement is primarily a Right-wing agenda.
There is something to this idea. Without the 'machinery' of a record company (admin, promotion and distribution) the well known icons you mention would not be as successful or else they'd have to find some way to do themselves what the record company does for them.
But without the producers who actually scout and develop and produce and record and otherwise interact with the artists and who have street cred with the artists and the listening audience, the record company people behind the scenes wouldn't have the same ability to quickly find and present to the public fresh new artists and sounds. They would have to spend more money to realize a return on investment and the return on investment might not be as great as it now is.
So the front guys need the back guys and vice versa.
The word is PAWNS.
I am amazed at how some people have the nerve to criticize Bush. :mrgreen:
I disagree. Rappers are just products. Their 15 mins of fame can last years if they sell out properly or seconds if they stay "real". Just look at the old school rappers today. The only one who I don't think has sold out is Ice T. But he's from a different generation. Look at Ice Cube and Snoop Dogg. Both of them are sellouts. How do you go from...Gin and Juice and Fvck the police...to Barbershop and talking animal movies?
When he can pronounce both pawns and pond get back to me.
ironically enough, the "censor violent video games" movement is primarily the hobbyhorse of the Left, while the "ban obscene lyrics" movement is primarily a Right-wing agenda.
The Left, you see, wants to censor violence.
The Right wants to censor sex.
Both agendas are based on the same erroneous principle: that seeing or hearing these things in popular entertainment will encourage people to do them, who wouldn't have otherwise.
Silliness.
In your opinion, what is the purpose of life?
Hey, he coined the word, "misunderestimate."
That earned him a "Lifetime Free Pass" for ANY future malaprops or verbal faux pas.
IMO? There is none. If we're living just so we can die and go to some
heaven with 72 virgins or a blonde jewish guy and his daddy, then there that really isn't that much of a meaning now is there? It's kind of like working your entire life and dedicating it to just one cause and then getting a watch and a plaque after 20-30 years of service then being retired to a life of boredom. It's one of the reason I could never be a cop or any other job that basically requires me to do the same task over...and over...etc etc.
Hahaha this had me chuckling pretty loudly(I'm at a cafe). The chick at the cash thought I was smiling at her.
I think an important question to answer is, do words and phrases lead to attitudes and behaviors, or is it the other way around?bhkad said:And so what we have in these hearings are an attempt by the people in our society who understand how harmful these words, phrases, attitudes and behaviors are trying to limit the amount of harm inflicted on society. And on the OTHER side are those who have not yet learned how harmful these words, phrases, attitudes and behaviors are or can be.
They tried this same garbage in the 80's with metal. This is why you see the "Warning Explicit Lyrics" stickers on CDs/ and on some download sites. Its always been a democrat led charge in regards to censorship for the entertainment industry, although I think republicans aren't to adamant about fighting it themselves. It was a demcratically led congress during the hearings in the 80s, and its now a democratically led congress now. But because Regan was president during the 80s, everybody wrongly assumes that it was a right-wing push to censor.
Personally, I think rap is to music what McDonalds is to food.
Metal is just an excuse for effeminate men to wear make up and leather and get away with it.
No idea what you are talking about. Thats just nonsense Hatuey.....
I think an important question to answer is, do words and phrases lead to attitudes and behaviors, or is it the other way around?
They tried this same garbage in the 80's with metal. This is why you see the "Warning Explicit Lyrics" stickers on CDs/ and on some download sites. Its always been a democrat led charge in regards to censorship for the entertainment industry, although I think republicans aren't to adamant about fighting it themselves. It was a demcratically led congress during the hearings in the 80s, and its now a democratically led congress now. But because Regan was president during the 80s, everybody wrongly assumes that it was a right-wing push to censor.
Personally, I think rap is to music what McDonalds is to food.
Commish: I need 10,000 black men
Volunteers will patrol high-crime areas
By DAVE DAVIES
Police Commissioner Sylvester Johnson is joining with civic leaders in an effort to recruit 10,000 black men to fight crime in Philadelphia's toughest neighborhoods.
Dubbed "A Call to Action: 10,000 men - It's a New Day," the effort will begin Oct. 21 with a rally and recruitment drive at the Liacouras Center, followed days afterward by the training of the volunteers to act as community "peacekeepers."
"It's time for African-American men to stand up," Johnson said in an interview. "We have an obligation to protect our women, our children and our elderly. We're going to put men on the street. We're going to train them in conflict resolution."
Johnson said volunteers will be asked to patrol in high-crime areas for two to three hours a day for "a minimum of 90 days."
He said that the effort wasn't a city program, though many police commanders will be involved in training volunteers and supporting the patrolling peacekeepers, and training will take place at city recreation centers.
Community and religious leaders will be closely involved, Johnson said.
A key architect of the strategy is Dennis Muhammad, chief of security for Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan. Muhammad has a Detroit-based consulting business that works with police departments on community policing and sensitivity training.
Muhammad met in City Hall last summer with Johnson, Mayor Street and some business leaders, and Johnson was enthusiastic about the notion of rallying African-American men to stem the growing tide of violence.
In an interview yesterday, Muhammad said he envisions a dramatic presence in Philadelphia's most troubled neighborhoods that could inspire a national movement.
"We plan to deploy these men and distinguish them with a colored shirt or something, and our very physical presence will become a deterrent," Muhammad said. "It would be hard to commit a crime on a corner with 200 men.
"When this is successful, we hope to bottle this and take it to every major city in the country," he said.
Johnson said he's met regularly with record-industry mogul Kenny Gamble and radio host and executive E. Stephen Collins to plan the undertaking.
The problem is that the right is being assigned the moniker of anti-first amendment and didn't do very much to attack speech or expression in the entertainment industry, mainly porn(which I disagree with) gets focused on by conservatives, both eras of entertainment hearings were during democrat control of the legislature. It makes no difference to me, however if it is the Tipper Gore led PMRC, Hillary's attack on video games, or an attack on Hip-Hop(of which I am not a fan), whether it is republicans or democrats leading the charge it's an attack on the constitution and wrong. I do consider myself the "right" though, I just represent the conservative values of it and don't believe in the "values" approach many of the RINOs use.Gee I thought the right was always squawking about free speech. I wonder if the same type of language that is used in Hip Hop was used Country (the typical choice of music for your average red state putz) music the Senate would be wasting its time. I just love how our pathetic government knows what its priorities are. So I wonder how long till the next violent video game hearing. Jesus Christ
CTV.ca | U.S. Congress examines hip-hop language, tone
Tru Dat. Seriously, I can't argue against this point.Rappers are the product of guys in business suits. Everybody blames them. What they fail to see is that these "gangstas" are backed by dudes like Jimmy Iovine and the guys who run the Universal Music Group. Do you honestly think Russel Simmons runs anything? Do people really think Dr. Dre runs aftermath? Do people honestly think Jay-Z plays a key role in the decisions made by Def Jam? :rofl . Blame the people who put them there. Not the rappers themselves. They're just ponds.
I think that's a key point. Most of the new breed of politicians out there don't necessarily act like adults should be left to their own liberties and instead want to "shelter" americans from their own choices, which is sad. Every choice that exists has consequences, but those consequences outweigh the alternative, that being more government control of our lives.Both really piss me the hell off. Im an adult I know the difference between right and wrong. People need to stop blaming the artists, the developer, the company etc and blame the parents. They are responsible for their children's behavior. Our tax dollars can be used for something other than this. I didnt even hear about this crap until The Daily Show made fun of it.
They are responsible for their children's behavior.
"BTW, Who's your Daddy?" ~ bhkad
No they aren't.
Children are responsible for children's behavior.
But if someone other than the children themselves must be held accountable, then I suppose parents make a more practical and convenient scapegoat than society at large.
As a parent you are responsible what is exposed to your child. It pisses me off when parents cant see their own follies of their own actions.
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