Only a fool would think that they could trick someone into thinking they didn't use a straw man by using another straw man
We weren't talking about the middle class vs the wealthy, or the wealthy vs people on medicare or private insurance. Here, let me remind you of what you said
Your own words show that even you know that the wealthy can purchase better health care than the poor
In one post you claim that people on Medicaid get the same treatment as the wealthy, and in another thread you make it clear that your own experience proves you know better.
And that's because what I said was true Sangha. Sorry that you are so upset about being proven wrong by me that you have to create strawman arguments to try and help your ego.. but what I said was true.
The patient in the room was a millionaire. and the other patient in the room was a person on Medicaid. They both got the same care in the hospital,, the wealthy person could not buy themelves better care.
Now in many places in Europe.. they COULD TRULY buy themselves better care, better surgeon.. better technique, better room, heck better whole hospital.
Now.. as far as the outpatient care in my other patient? Yes.. if you have government insurance like Medicaid.. or VA.. there is a chance that your insurance will limit your care as opposed to private insurance or medicare. this is not a function of wealth as much as its a function of their insurance.
The poor person with Medicare.. is going to get the same care as the rich person with Medicare. And the rich CEO with Bluecross blueshield is going to get the same care as his employee with bluecross blueshield.
No doubt that having insurance and what insurance you have matters. That's true.. but its not the function of wealth as much as it is in other countries.. where their aren;t just different insurances but actually different care provision. there are actually private hospitals. private clinics that the wealthy and upper middle class can go to and a public system where everyone else goes.
We don't really have that tiered system here in the states. Heck.. a poor person with Medicaid is going to get better care than a middle class person without insurance.. so wealth isn't the primary factor in the US.
those are the facts. Now here is another fact.. that the worst insurance to have in this country.. and insurance does matter.. is usually Medicaid.. a government healthcare.. the next worse is usually the VA.. another government healthcare. And for people in other countries that have government healthcare.. the insurance that's most like what they have in most of these countries is like the VA and Medicaid
that's the reality.. and yet do you and others clamor for? "government healthcare"....
Now I know that after being proven wrong over and over again... your ego stings.. but you need to get over it.