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Netanyahu lies, like trump lies, like Putin lies, etc. Some people have to be slapped silly with lies and they still are too stupid (or loyal) to ever stop believing them.Looking back, I am genuinely curious if, at any significant event or point in this conflict, Israel has been forth-right and honest. Time after time they've been caught in lies. And worse.
Outside of blatant racism / ethno-bigotry, and Western white privilege, why is Israel believed over any other party in this conflict (keeping in mind that Hamas only one of those groups).
How many times do you have to be slapped across the face with a lie before you stop believe the party which slapped you?
So my challenge: Point to an event where there was controversy and conflicting stories (Israel said X vs. Hamas or INWRA or [insert humanitarian aid group] saying Y), and where Israel was vindicated in the truth.
There may well one. Refresh my memory.
Lets start at the beginning. Did the music festival really get attacked? Or was the whole thing all made up as a false flag event?
What are you talking about? Iran is not "the chief culprit". That would be like calling England "the chief culprit" in the Holocaust. Israel (Much Worse than Hamas) is the "chief culprit", with the US their partner. Hamas has largely told the truth that I've seen. They're rarely heard from at all, because the media rarely reports what they say.And then we continue with the post that asked who isn't telling the truth. Have the Hamas leaders been truthful?
By the way, the chief culprit, Iran; have that publicly stated they want to wipe Israel off the map?
EDIT: Excuse my error; that post wasn't asking who isn't truthful. Was just flat out stating names. BUT didn't include Hamas leaders. Kind of odd leaving them off the list.
What are you talking about? Iran is not "the chief culprit". That would be like calling England "the chief culprit" in the Holocaust. Israel (Much Worse than Hamas) is the "chief culprit", with the US their partner. Hamas has largely told the truth that I've seen. They're rarely heard from at all, because the media rarely reports what they say.
I'm not expert on Hamas funding, but I think they get much of it from countries who support resistance against the illegal occupation, such as Qatar and Iran. Google confirms this and adds entities in "Algeria, Sudan... Turkey, and the United Arab Emirates." I view funding Hamas as very different from "the main culprit".You've got me sort of confused. Excuse me for that, but please answer a question; how does Hamas generate funds? You know, where does their money come from?
Lets start at the beginning. Did the music festival really get attacked? Or was the whole thing all made up as a false flag event?
If you want the truth from GAZA, you won't get it from the news media.
You've got me sort of confused.
; how does Hamas generate funds? You know, where does their money come from?
I'm not expert on Hamas funding, but I think they get much of it from countries who support resistance against the illegal occupation, such as Qatar and Iran. Google confirms this and adds entities in "Algeria, Sudan... Turkey, and the United Arab Emirates." I view funding Hamas as very different from "the main culprit".
Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip, which is controlled by Hamas, have also fired 25 rockets at Israel over the same period, and the Israeli military has carried out air strikes there in response.
Late on Thursday, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said they were "currently striking in Gaza". A number of explosions were heard in Gaza, and AFP news agency reported that multiple Hamas training sites had been hit.
Hamas, the Palestinian militant movement that runs Gaza, issued a statement Wednesday strongly suggesting that its forces were releasing rockets toward Israel, shortly after the IDF said firmly it believed Hamas was not doing so.
“The Palestinian resistance with all its factions, led by the Nasser Salah al-Din Brigades, is participating now in a unified manner by teaching the enemy a lesson that it will not forget and confirming that Palestinian blood is not cheap,” said the statement, issued by Muhammad al-Buraim, an official in the joint resistance committees in Palestine.
I view funding Hamas as very different from "the main culprit".
I'm glad you used that vocabulary "culprit" and as I have to be careful where I gather material because if I do not choose a media entity that is acceptable to those with a left lean in their view of certain matters I am labeled some sort of cherry picking type, I am using BBC (maybe viewed as a neutral) and CNN.
Please allow me to post a couple lines about what the key is in their coverage; rockets fired at Israel:
Obviously, I am pointing out that Hamas is not so peaceful in their manner of handling disputes. AND those rockets they are using were probably not built in Gaza. That is no small logistics mission to transport those rockets from wherever they are manufactured to Gaza. You suppose that sort of logistics work is/was accomplished exclusively by Hamas forces?
And I would bet that with some further research we could find out if Hamas fired upon Israel first, or Israel fired upon Hamas first. Now I bring up that who fired first question because of your odd statement, as follows:
And about that "main culprit" point and my making note of a nation that clearly stated they wanted Israel removed from the Earth; you seemed to have missed that. Not sure why you missed it, but probably just an accident, yes?
I didn't miss it. I'd say nearly all mention of 'they want to wipe them off the map' is rogue state propaganda - it's used to justify their unlimited violence much like Hitler claimed Jews wanted to destroy Germany; nearly all the rest is either hyperbole or misrepresented or needs clarification about what's actually being said. Nearly all of it is saying they want the state to be ended, not to kill anyone, and they welcome the people to live peacefully.
Even that limited statement is almost entirely absent from anyone but a few radical individuals. Other states don't say any more, and as I said above Hamas since 2017 offered to accept the rogue state in 1967 boundaries.
Iran's current government does not recognize Israel's legitimacy as a state and has called for its destruction; it views Palestine as the sole legitimate government of the historic Palestinian territories.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Israel_relations
Iran's Supreme Leader Says Israel Won't Exist in 25 Years
The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › World › Middle East
Sep 9, 2015 — Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Israel need not worry about the 25-year period after the nuclear deal, because it would not be around, ...
You'll please excuse me for first focusing on the following:
And let me show you a couple results doing a single-page quick search:
So you think the New York Times editors would have misquoted Ayatollah Ali Khamenei? Do you think the New York Times would allow itself to be used by Israel to plant fiction as fact, in one of the NYT's news releases? Meaning that Ayatollah Ali Khamenei didn't actually say that?
I don't care, actually. The colonialists love to make propaganda arguments about ancient history and invest heavily in archeology trying to support their colonialism as if it matters. It works on some people, many citizens in the rogue state are indoctrinated based on it. To answer you, I'm not saying Roman records are false.Do you also think the Roman records are fiction? You know, there being no Arabs in the Roman area of control in that area way back in time.
That wasn't the beginning. Started long before that.Lets start at the beginning. Did the music festival really get attacked? Or was the whole thing all made up as a false flag event?
Both Exodus 17:8-16 and Deuteronomy 25:17-19 discuss the genocide of Amalek. Exodus depicts an initial defeat of this wandering tribe, and explains that YHWH, the national God of Israel, “will utterly blot out the memory (Hebrew זֵכֶר) of Amalek from under heaven!” (2) (Exod 17:14). The shorter text in Deut 25:19 speaks more problematically not of YHWH obliterating Amalek, but of Israel’s obligation to “blot out the memory (again, זֵכֶר) of Amalek from under heaven. Do not forget!” In a follow-up in 1 Samuel 15:3, Saul, Israel’s first king, is told by YHWH via the prophet Samuel, “Now go, attack Amalek, and proscribe [kill and dedicate to YHWH—MZB] (3) all that belongs to him. Spare no one, but kill alike men and women, infants and sucklings, oxen and sheep, camels and asses!”
If you want the truth from GAZA, you won't get it from the news media.
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