Media including Fox News overwhelmingly reject Pentagon press policy

[CaughtInThe]

LOL!! Right.

And you probably think there is still a Gulf of Mexico.

Bye.

There is still a Gulf of Mexico

 

[ElChupacabra]

LOL!! Right.

And you probably think there is still a Gulf of Mexico.

Bye.

The body of water is still there, and the rest of the world refers to it as the Gulf of Mexico. If you and other folks want to call it Trump's Nads, that's your prerogative.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Boo Hoo...

These media companies don't want to have to give up their leakers in the Pentagon. Too ****ing bad.

Pentagon press pool's main hang-up: journalists confirming they 'understand' new policies

Overlawyered? Reporters appear reluctant to agree they “understand” the guidelines, which could open them up to possible prosecution if they receive classified information from any official.

justthenews.com

Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you.

btw, for those who want to read the policy...here it is: https://justthenews.com/sites/defau...06-Revised-Pentagon-press-access-in-brief.pdf

Weird, how the 10/6/25 revision to the 9/18/25 DOD memorandum no longer contains this acknowledgment that must be initialed by Pentagon journalists;

This however, remains the same;

Which is blatantly unconstitutional.

9/18/25 memorandum -

https://static.poder360.com.br/2025/09/Pentagono-nova-regra-midia-20-set-2025.pdf

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Whether it's classified or unclassified isn't the issue. It's about unauthorized leaking. That's what the DOW wants to end...and what the media doesn't want to give up.

1. Until/unless Congress acts to change the name, there is no “DOW”.
2. Traitor Trump’s DOD butt-boy, Hegseth, wants to control all information coming out of DOD by requiring journalists to submit to review/censorship. That is blatantly unconstitutional.

It isn’t the free press’ job to prevent leaks from the Pentagon, it’s Hegseth’s job.

If he can’t control those that serve under him, he should be fired.

 

[tosca1]

Fox News, along with ABC, CBS and NBC, did not sign the Defense Department’s press policy by Tuesday’s deadline, having earlier in the day denounced the new regulations in a joint statement that included CNN, which previously said it would not sign.​

“Today, we join virtually every other news organization in declining to agree to the Pentagon’s new requirements, which would restrict journalists’ ability to keep the nation and the world informed of important national security issues,” the news networks wrote. “The policy is without precedent and threatens core journalistic protections. We will continue to cover the U.S. military as each of our organizations has done for many decades, upholding the principles of a free and independent press.”​

[...]​

As of Tuesday’s 5 p.m. deadline, only the MAGA-friendly One America News had said it would sign the policy.​

The result, the Atlantic’s Nancy Youssef wrote Monday on X, is that reporters will take part in an unprecedented clearing out of the Defense Department’s gargantuan headquarters in Northern Virginia. “Starting Wednesday, for the first time since the Pentagon opened in 1943, there will be likely no major news outlets accredited to cover the [department], the one spending nearly $1 trillion of taxpayer money.”​

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Fox "News" has done everything it could to cheerlead an authoritarian into the White House, but now objects to his authoritarian, undemocratic, illiberal governance--when it affects their own business.

Provision on ‘security threat’ was sticking point ​

Under the new rules, journalists are technically not barred from investigating, reporting or publishing stories on the U.S. military using information deemed sensitive or unclassified, but they could be deemed a vague “security or safety risk” should they even ask Defense Department personnel for such information, according to the rules.




The policy stipulates that when journalists receive and publish unsolicited classified or sensitive information from government sources, they are “generally” protected in doing so by the First Amendment.


But “if you solicit the disclosure of such information or otherwise encourage [Defense Department] personnel to violate laws and policies concerning the disclosure of such information,
such conduct may weigh in the consideration of whether you pose a security or safety risk.”


The Pentagon describes solicitation as including calls for tips encouraging military personnel to share nonpublic information, as many reporters do via their publications or personal social media platforms.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5555797-media-outlets-decline-pentagon-policy/

I'm on the fence on this.

I do understand where the concern is coming from, but I also remember from Trump's previous campaign (2016), that he criticized how our own press is informing out your military moves or plan every time leaders are interviewed.
To me, giving your enemies a heads up - that doesn't make any sense.


Aren't obtaining classified military information, what espionage can be all about as well?



What's the difference between the Russian or Chinese embassy luring US military personnel for some sensitive information, with that of journalists doing the same thing?
If you publish it - your enemies will know!


There is secrecy involved in military strategies.



We have a biased media - we can see that for sure.
We have far-left-leaning biased media!

We can see too, not every press card-carrying journalist has integrity!
In fact, most of them.......don't!

How do we know some journalists aren't working for, or sympathetic to the enemies?
Or, motivated by partisan politics?



But, I can see the slippery slope of this policy, too.

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[OrphanSlug]

To see so many in the media reject the new press policy is refreshing, it is a nice list of groups saying no. Besides, Trump's own mouth will be the source of what is happening with the military. He cannot help it, ego takes over, and tell us about what was hit and where operations are being carried out.

 

[german hick]

The body of water is still there, and the rest of the world refers to it as the Gulf of Mexico. If you and other folks want to call it Trump's Nads, that's your prerogative.

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not really true. Nobody here calls it the gulf of America, even not in brackets.

 

[tosca1]

To see so many in the media reject the new press policy is refreshing, it is a nice list of groups saying no. Besides, Trump's own mouth will be the source of what is happening with the military. He cannot help it, ego takes over, and tell us about what was hit and where operations are being carried out.

What comes from Trump's mouth, are warnings.

But we know that it's his unpredictability that gives pause to our enemies.
He could be bluffing, or not.

They couldn't read him like they'd read Biden.

As far as I know - he hadn't given out any sensitive military operation strategies during, or before they're carried out.

 

[ncguy]

What comes from Trump's mouth, are warnings.

But we know that it's his unpredictability that gives pause to our enemies.
He could be bluffing, or not.

They couldn't read him like they'd read Biden.

As far as I know - he hadn't given out any sensitive military operation strategies during, or before they're carried out.

And unpredictable behavior is bad for Americans and allies
They can't depend on him like they could with Biden

 

[tosca1]

And unpredictable behavior is bad for Americans and allies
They can't depend on him like they could with Biden

I don't think there was anything hidden or unpredictable about his agenda with allies!
He wanted them to do their share - given in his campaign in 2016!
That was already on the table.........since then.





Allies and the whole world - including the enemies - have been counting on the US media to give out everything.................. blow-by-blow!

Lol - it's because the media didn't report, how he's gonna do it - that's the problem!





Stick to the issue.

We're talking about enemies.
Not allies.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Stick to the issue.

We're talking about enemies.
Not allies.

There is some irony. You bring up Biden then tell others, with some pretend authority you do not have, what can and cannot be discussed in thread.

 

[PopTart]

Trump dismantles 1st Amendment with spyware.

Trump administration contract with Paragon Solutions gives immigration agency access to one of the most powerful stealth cyberweapons

Pegasus spyware: The use of Pegasus spyware, created by the Israeli surveillance firm NSO Group, has been a significant subject of reporting.The spyware has been used to target journalists and activists globally, raising concerns about privacy and press freedom.

WhatsApp reveals nearly 100 journalists & civil society members were allegedly targeted by Paragon Solutions spyware​

In February 2025, it was reported that investigative journalists and activists in Italy had been targeted by military-grade hacking software made by Paragon Solutions. The news follows reporting in January that says ‘dozens’ of users of WhatsApp globally have been targeted by Paragon’s spyware.

DHS did not confirm whether the contract, which says it covers a “fully configured proprietary solution including license, hardware, warranty, maintenance, and training,” includes the deployment of Paragon’s flagship product, Graphite, a powerful spyware tool that reportedly extracts data primarily from cloud backups...

I have no doubt that Trump has already authorized the use of Cyber-Attacks without Search Warrants to quell Political Dissonance.

 

[tosca1]

There is some irony. You bring up Biden then

ENEMIES!

Your enemies can read Biden like a large-print book!
Read my response to him.

tell others, with some pretend authority you do not have, what can and cannot be discussed in thread.

Get a grip!
I did no such thing!

I told them - and I'm telling you too - to stick to the issue.
That's how we do it in a serious, MATURE discussion!


Of course, you can still yap about anything. Lol - you can bring in Elon Musk too and the race to the moon!

 

[OrphanSlug]

ENEMIES!

Your enemies can read Biden like a large-print book!

Does not matter, use any font you feel like, you are the one telling everyone what they can and cannot talk about.

 

[tosca1]

Does not matter, use any font you feel like, you are the one telling everyone what they can and cannot talk about.

OOOOPS.
I must've stepped on it......


HAVE A NICE DAY!

 

[ncguy]

I don't think there was anything hidden or unpredictable about his agenda with allies!
He wanted them to do their share - given in his campaign in 2016!
That was already on the table.........since then.





Allies and the whole world - including the enemies - have been counting on the US media to give out everything.................. blow-by-blow!

Lol - it's because the media didn't report, how he's gonna do it - that's the problem!





Stick to the issue.

We're talking about enemies.
Not allies.

You think his treatment of allies is consistent?
But my point is that being unpredictable may hurt our enemies but also hurts us
You can't claim the good and ignore the bad

 

[SuperDS77]

Inexcusably and embarrassingly ignorant, or just pretending to be?

Saying you don't know without saying you don't know.

Got it!

 

[j brown's body]

Boo Hoo...

These media companies don't want to have to give up their leakers in the Pentagon. Too ****ing bad.

Pentagon press pool's main hang-up: journalists confirming they 'understand' new policies

Overlawyered? Reporters appear reluctant to agree they “understand” the guidelines, which could open them up to possible prosecution if they receive classified information from any official.

justthenews.com

Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you.

btw, for those who want to read the policy...here it is: https://justthenews.com/sites/defau...06-Revised-Pentagon-press-access-in-brief.pdf

Infighting is an inherent part of any Trump administration, and thus, will always suffer from leakers.

Although I'm not sure how this would stop them.

 

[jpn]

But, I can see the slippery slope of this policy, too.

As far as anyone knows, no security breach by any Pentagon journalists brought about the new restrictions.

The biggest violation of national-security norms since Hegseth entered the building 10 months ago was by Hegseth himself, when he moved sensitive plans about upcoming air strikes on Yemen from a secure government system to a non-governmental app, Signal, and unwittingly shared them with the editor in chief of the Atlantic Monthly.

Hegseth’s disdain for critical coverage of any kind has been evident since he took office. Within weeks, he evicted several news organizations from their workspaces. Then he barred journalists from using the press-briefing room. In May, he restricted the press to a handful of the Pentagon’s 17.5 miles of hallways. In all, there have been only two Hegseth press briefings and two others on camera by his top spokesperson. Instead, Hegseth and his press team have relied on social media, posting a steady stream of attacks on reporters and their stories, and even on retired military leaders.​

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Disdain for the role of the media in keeping the public informed is characteristic of authoritarians. Freedom of the press is a vital element of healthy democracy.

Protecting secrets while still honoring the responsibility to engage with the American public through the press are two values that can coexist.

 

[ElChupacabra]

not really true. Nobody here calls it the gulf of America, even not in brackets.

The screenshot I shared was from Google Maps, so they're displaying Gulf of America in brackets for the rest of the world. Are you saying Google Maps in Germany doesn't display it this way?

 

[jpn]

not really true. Nobody here calls it the gulf of America, even not in brackets.

I'm curious — how does the Gulf of Mexico appear in Google Maps in Germany?

 

[Once More]

Weird, how the 10/6/25 revision to the 9/18/25 DOD memorandum no longer contains this acknowledgment that must be initialed by Pentagon journalists;
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This however, remains the same;
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Which is blatantly unconstitutional.

9/18/25 memorandum -

https://static.poder360.com.br/2025/09/Pentagono-nova-regra-midia-20-set-2025.pdf

There is no DoW so the memorandum means nothing.

 

[jpn]

A journalist of the Pentagon press corps reports:

One way to reach our offices was to walk through a corridor dedicated to the military’s commitment to engaging with the press. At the end is a large sign outlining the department’s Principles of Information, signed less than two months after the 9/11 attacks.​

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“It is the policy of the Department of Defense to make available timely and accurate information so that the public, the Congress, and the news media may assess and understand the facts about national security and defense strategy” the George W. Bush–era document states. “A free flow of general and military information shall be made available, without censorship or propaganda, to the men and women of the Armed Forces and their dependents.”​

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The day before our departure, one reporter placed signs throughout our soon-to-be-vacated spaces that read Journalism is not a crime. As soon as members of Hegseth’s staff saw the signs, they tore them down.​

 

[Once More]

not really true. Nobody here calls it the gulf of America, even not in brackets.

I live in the US. And nobody I know, even the MAGA’s, call it the Gulf of America.
N O B O D Y!!!!

 

[german hick]

I'm curious — how does the Gulf of Mexico appear in Google Maps in Germany?

with America in brackets - but that has nothing to do with my answer. Google is not European