Hallucinogenic fish (1 Viewer)

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Hallucinogenic species[edit]​

Fish species reported as hallucinogenic

Sea chub			Blue sea chub		Hawaii
		Brassy chub		Hawaii
Surgeon fish			Convict surgeonfish		Hawaii
Omnivores	Goatfish			Yellowstripe goatfish		Hawaii	Called "the chief of ghosts" in Hawaii
		Finstripe goatfish
Mullet			Flathead grey mullet		Hawaii
		Acute-jawed mullet		Hawaii
Carnivores	Groupers			Coral grouper

Ichthyoallyeinotoxism[edit]​

Ichthyoallyeinotoxism, or hallucinogenic fish inebriation, is a clinical syndrome that refers to a hallucinogenic inebriation of a distressing nature that can arise from consuming hallucinogenic fish. It is characterised by "psychologic disturbances of hallucination and depression. Gastrointestinal disturbance may occur".[61] "Ichthyoallyeinotoxism is a kind of ichthysarcotoxism (fish flesh poisoning) responsible of an unusual clinical feature: it is the unique case of central nervous system ichthyotoxicity. The most frequent signs are dizziness, loss of co-ordination and hallucinations."
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Unknown 'toxin' might be DMT (N,N-Dimethyltryptamine), a metabolite of the amino acid L-tryptophan. Sounds pretty fishy to me.

 

[JacksinPA]

Hallucinogenic fish - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hallucinogenic species[edit]​

Fish species reported as hallucinogenic

Sea chub			Blue sea chub		Hawaii
		Brassy chub		Hawaii
Surgeon fish			Convict surgeonfish		Hawaii
Omnivores	Goatfish			Yellowstripe goatfish		Hawaii	Called "the chief of ghosts" in Hawaii
		Finstripe goatfish
Mullet			Flathead grey mullet		Hawaii
		Acute-jawed mullet		Hawaii
Carnivores	Groupers			Coral grouper

Ichthyoallyeinotoxism[edit]​

Ichthyoallyeinotoxism, or hallucinogenic fish inebriation, is a clinical syndrome that refers to a hallucinogenic inebriation of a distressing nature that can arise from consuming hallucinogenic fish. It is characterised by "psychologic disturbances of hallucination and depression. Gastrointestinal disturbance may occur".[61] "Ichthyoallyeinotoxism is a kind of ichthysarcotoxism (fish flesh poisoning) responsible of an unusual clinical feature: it is the unique case of central nervous system ichthyotoxicity. The most frequent signs are dizziness, loss of co-ordination and hallucinations."
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Unknown 'toxin' might be DMT (N,N-Dimethyltryptamine), a metabolite of the amino acid L-tryptophan. Sounds pretty fishy to me.

After sleeping on this I came to the tentative conclusion that DMT is not the chemical found in fish that causes hallucinations. The reason for my tentative conclusion: DMT is quickly metabolized by detoxifying enzymes called monoamine oxidases (MAO). In S American ceremonial concoctions, the DMT is mixed with a plant extract that contain different alkaloids that inhibit MAO that are called monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOI). These are typically alkaloids of the harmala category, such as harmaline. I doubt that these funny fish pack both DMT & an MAOI.

As a side note, synthetic molecules have been prescribed as anti-depressants but I believe these have fallen out of favor as they have been superseded by the more recent SSRI class like PROZAC. They also can cause severe problems if a patient mixes an MAOI with a monoamine such as are commonly found in drugs such as nasal sprays.