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Half of GOP Would Still Vote for Trump If Implicated in Epstein Crimes

W_Heisenberg

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I posted a bunch of polls over the past few weeks about this. Few Republicans responded. Now I know why.

I honestly don’t know what to think about this:

Half of Republican voters would not abandon their vote for President Donald Trump if he were implicated in Jeffrey Epstein’s crimes.

This is according to a new survey conducted by Canadian market research firm Leger, which found that such a revelation wouldn’t sway 47 percent of Republican voters.

Trump has denied being involved in Epstein’s crimes, and no evidence has emerged to suggest otherwise.

A further 26 percent of survey respondents said they were unsure or wouldn’t answer, leaving just 27 percent who said that they would be more likely to vote for another party.
 
Course they would. He'll piss off the left even more, right?
 
So it was never about "save the children" or any such nonsense anyways, as we predicted.

That Jim Caviezel movie was just pure culture war fanfiction and cosplay porn once again.
 
I call bullshit.

A more realistic number is that 85% of "Republicans" would still support Taco even if were demonstrated beyond doubt that he was having sex with minors. They would ignore, deflect, and whatabout their asses off, but they'd still support him.

Hell, JD "Trump is America's Hitler" Vance is doing it now, whatabouting his ass off trying to distract from the fact that his Daddy Taco has not released the data and will not until his name is completely wiped off the files.
 

This explains the difference:

“A further 26 percent of survey respondents said they were unsure or wouldn’t answer, leaving just 27 percent who said that they would be more likely to vote for another party”

This is probably 26 percent who are still capable of feeling enough shame to not publicly express they’d vote for Trump anyway.
 
The funny part is this:


From 2001-2009, Trump was...wait for it...a registered Democrat!

OK, JD, we believe you!
 
These types of polls and the articles are some of the biggest "whataboutisms" and "what if's" going around. They are designed to disrupt and divide. They don't help us fix a thing. If you have evidence, real evidence then proceed but trying to make an imaginary case without evidence is the Democrats/liberals/progressive and Trump haters entire game plan and often seems to be their only purpose in life.
 
I often try to tell myself Trump supporters are just mislead, uninformed, in an echo chamber, etc.

But if these poll results are true, what does this say about Trump supporters?
 
Vote for another party? Is that what democrats would do? I doubt it. They'd vote for a different democrat and that's likely what a republican would do as well.
 
That's the cult for you. Cultists never abandon the cult leader. Fortunately, half of the GOP is around 25% of voters. That's baby-eating numbers -- the percentage of people who would still support him if he went on national TV and ate a live baby.
 
I often try to tell myself Trump supporters are just mislead, uninformed, in an echo chamber, etc.

But if these poll results are true, what does this say about Trump supporters?
I think you just described yourself and many democrats and progressives.
 
I would take a step further. They are not mad he is implicated. They are mad because he will not share the details with his supporters. They want in on the underage girls…
 
Ok. What if Clinton, Obama, and Biden showed up on the list? What would democrats do? How about Newsom, Pritzker, Schiff? What would you do?
 
I think you just described yourself and many democrats and progressives.
95% of the population lives in what is call an echo chamber. It is human nature, sadly.

We do not use critical thinking. We look for information that supports our views.

Our views are formed in emotional not intellectual caverns.

We are not what we think we are.
 
I often try to tell myself Trump supporters are just mislead, uninformed, in an echo chamber, etc.

But if these poll results are true, what does this say about Trump supporters?

It says, in my opinion, that their animosity stemming from feelings of perceived victimhood at the hands of the liberal agenda run deeper than any moral qualms they might have about supporting a pedophile.

Propaganda creates sociopaths.
 
Ever pay attention to the mass amount of vitriol served up on TV news, the internet, social media? So much is exaggeration, misinformation, and outright lies all for political purposes. It's used to attract voters? Whatever happened to just making your case, providing you plan, and trying to sell it based on merit? Instead we get BS attacks that very often are exaggerated or simply not true. When discovered they jump the gun, neither the politicians nor the media do the right thing and retract publicly the BS.
Most Americans are too busy with jobs, family, bills, and the many things going on in their lives to spend time listning to the crap we get served to us daily that just a little bit of research will tell you is filled with false information for purely political purpose. So they just don't bother until right before an election and then vote based on a tiny bit of information, some catching add, of what a friend or relative told the.
We should be demanding better, but we don't'. We keep re electing the same politicians that do the wrong things. Both parties. Partly because is appears all the politicians are in on the deal.
 
I often try to tell myself Trump supporters are just mislead, uninformed, in an echo chamber, etc.

But if these poll results are true, what does this say about Trump supporters?
It's not a compliment, that's for sure.
 
It was a softball question. This is the pertinent question:

"Would you still vote for Trump if he was found guilty in a court of law of having raped a 13yo child?"

Because that is what really happened. I'm convinced he did that.

We don't care if you would vote for another party or not.

Most Republicans would simply not vote before they would ever vote for a Democrat. The propaganda has been so complete for so long that their hatred of Democrats is absolute.
 
It says, in my opinion, that their animosity stemming from feelings of perceived victimhood at the hands of the liberal agenda run deeper than any moral qualms they might have about supporting a pedophile.

Propaganda creates sociopaths.
Or maybe they just disagree with some of the very extreme positions coming out of the progressives in the democrat party? In regards to Trump support the democrats created a large amount of the indifference to claims about Trump when they went whole hog on the fabricated Trump Russia Collusion story.
 
Would democrats vote to lock up Biden if they had proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that he and his son orchestrated a plan to take money from our adversaries in a pay for play scheme while JB was VP?
 
Ok. What if Clinton, Obama, and Biden showed up on the list? What would democrats do? How about Newsom, Pritzker, Schiff? What would you do?

We would not support them. We would abandon them in a heartbeat. We would not vote for them.
 
How about charging Adam Schiff for declaring several different homes as his primary residence, outside of his congressional district, at the same time to get better real estate deals? Basically the same charge democrat charged Trump with? Would you?
 
I think you just described yourself and many democrats and progressives.

The poll results show exactly how your side responded. If it makes you look bad, it’s because it is bad.
 
We would not support them. We would abandon them in a heartbeat. We would not vote for them.
I don't believe you. For instance Bill Clinton was a notorious womanizer while governor of AR while in the White House. Lewinski in the WH. Did you abandon Bill?
 
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