By what standard?Again, I never said it wasn't split before he was President. It wasn't as defined and sharp as it was after 9/11.
Was the country 'united' when we went into Iraq?Like I said earlier, I think the split came about when Bush tried to use 9/11 as currency to push for an unrelated war.
History will show GWB in a positive light.
Anyone that considers him a faulure needs to look back no nurther than Truman...
I don’t suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome. I did not suffer from Clinton Derangement Syndrome either. In fact I’m proud to say I’ve managed to avoid, through use of my intellect common sense and most importantly maturity, irrational fixations or obsessions with any POTUS that has served in my lifetime. As you have been proudly vociferous in your opinions on Bush, it is just a tad too late for you to claim any objectivity on this topic whatsoever.Take off your own "BDS" glasses...maybe you will see something other than what you want to see. I made the poll options with 1 basically 100% in favor of Bush, 1 100% against Bush and the other three that fall within.
What are your views of his legacy and how don't they fall within any of the options provided....please enlighten us.
I don’t suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome. I did not suffer from Clinton Derangement Syndrome either. In fact I’m proud to say I’ve managed to avoid, through use of my intellect common sense and most importantly maturity, irrational fixations or obsessions with any POTUS that has served in my lifetime. As you have been proudly vociferous in your opinions on Bush, it is just a tad too late for you to claim any objectivity on this topic whatsoever.
Which is amply demonstrated by your “poll”.
Here are the other three options you posit as “falling within”:
A man who accomplished much but failed to live up to his complete potential
A man who may have had good ideas but failed to accomplish much
A man with lack of ideas and accomplished very little
The Bush legacy will not be decided on “he had great/bad ideas” or his “potential” anymore than any prior POTUS legacy is. This is the problem with “polls” generated and created by proudly partisan posters with an axe to grind. This poll would be a crappy poll regardless of who the POTUS is IMO. You don't like it? Send along your address and I'll mail you some Disney themed tissue paper.
Translation: blather blabbety blah bah bah bah.:roll:Give me a break...your own arrogance exposes your own "syndromes":doh....
I would say a complete and utter failure, period.
He probably had some good ideas. He just didn't accomplish any of them.
Controlling the damage from one failed Democrat policy after another is Bush being a failure?
Nice logic. :lol:
Aside from huge tax cuts, reversing the left's policy of groveling and surrendering to every foreign threat, etc., sure. :roll:
Odd, I like your conjecture.aquapub said:Nice logic.
Odd, I like your conjecture.
I did not say why he was a failure so I think you need to reevaluate your logic.
I would ask for an expanded explanation before you assume.
Thank you for adding to the thread.ROC said:You have the worst avatar ever.
What damage did he control?
The deficit wasn't big enough?
It all started with that lefty Reagan retreating in Lebanon.
Odd, I like your conjecture.
I did not say why he was a failure so I think you need to reevaluate your logic.
I would ask for an expanded explanation before you assume.
Thank you for adding to the thread.
I will use your reply to add a bit more about my comment.
This item does not make Bush (Jr.) the worst but, an item worth looking at is his unnecessary Iraq War. It was odd to see Bush push so hard for the war when all of his reasons were false. I would like to point out that Bush alone did not fail the people, our representatives failed us by not stopping him and our media failed us by parroting the governments jingoism toward Iraq.
History will show GWB in a positive light.
Anyone that considers him a faulure needs to look back no nurther than Truman...
Just because others have failed, doesn't mean those after them can't. Bush's legacy is not going to be a good one, the Iraq war will not be remembered fondly.
:liar
Peddle your partisan misinformation elsewhere. Those of us who actually bother to inform ourselves know full well that it was Democrats who drafted a joint resolution demanding the full and immediate retreat after the bombing in Beirut, and Republicans who resisted their nauseating cowardice.
Every Democratic presidential candidate and every Congressional Democrat from Tip O'Neil to Joe Biden scorned Reagan for every second that he did not bend over for Islamic terrorists. And when they finally twisted his arm into doing it, he still insisted on bombing their terrorist camps on our way out, which the liberal treason machine also naturally excoriated him for.
Try again. :roll:
Winning a war that liberals lied about at every turn will be remembered fondly once it's behind us and isn't being propagandized against by the news media relentlessly. Abraham Lincoln fought a war many thought was far more unjust and he was far more unpopular.
You can in no way make a valid comparison between the Civil War and the Iraq war. That's nothing but outright silliness. The scales and necessity of the two are radically different, the affects they had on the nation are radically different...
Liberals lied about? How about the other way around? What did Saddam have to do with 9/11? Nothing.
There was no terrorist groups operating out of Iraq.
There wasn't half the crap we claimed there to be.
And without declaration of war, we went in against a sovereign nation and removed their leader, destroyed their government, set up an occupying police force, etc.
No, anyone willing to look at this without the partisan glasses will see the mistake this war was.
It's cost well too much in blood and money for freedom and liberty which isn't ours.
And we'll see how long that "freedom and liberty" last when we leave. Y'all are still living in delusions of grandeur.
Sources please.
"House Democrats Draft Resolution on Beirut Pullout." New York Times. 2/1/1984.
WASHINGTON, Jan. 31 - House Democratic leaders agreed tonight on a Congressional resolution that would urge President Reagan to begin ''the prompt and orderly withdrawal'' of the Marine contingent ...
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