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Granting her immunity or a pardon would make it easier for prosecutors or Congress to question her since the 5th amendment would no longer apply.
 
Granting her immunity or a pardon would make it easier for prosecutors or Congress to question her since the 5th amendment would no longer apply.
You mean it will be easier to cut a deal with her so she keeps Trump's name out of everything.
 
Granting her immunity or a pardon would make it easier for prosecutors or Congress to question her since the 5th amendment would no longer apply.
The left simply wants the issue. If they were looking for answers with regard to Epstein, they had 12 years and two administrations to do that. Given the questions surrounding Russian collusion and the apparent effort to construct it, mining Epstein would’ve been far easier to undo Trump. After all, the left seems to be without leadership or issues at present. They just have plenty of mouth, which is not new.
 
IT was not the left pointing that list in every direction insisting so and so was on it and Sheriff Trump, Child Protector Elite, was coming to town to bring justice. It turned out he's on the list, so his admin started yelling "Obama' at the base, and the base responded. If you think the country doesn't see the 800th iteration of OBAMA BLACK GUY BAD, I got another wall to sell you.
 
You're projecting. If the left acted like the right, all of the Russian collusion stuff would have come out right before the 2016 election.
 
When you can manage to respond to my post, let me know.
 
Granting her immunity or a pardon would make it easier for prosecutors or Congress to question her since the 5th amendment would no longer apply.

That's not justice, though. The victims' families deserve justice. I mean, who cares about her congressional testimony, really? Just release the files without Trump's name being redacted. We don't need her testimony. It seems Trump's more interested in her testimony, presumably believing that they can coerce her into saying whatever it is they want her to say.
 
If all you’re looking for is a way to shame Trump, that might work, unless his inclusion in the files is benign and doesn’t implicate him in any crimes. The only way to get other convictions will require her testimony, so if justice really is the goal then additional prosecutions will be needed. This is assuming she has information that would be damaging at trial and could help gain convictions.
 
You're projecting. If the left acted like the right, all of the Russian collusion stuff would have come out right before the 2016 election.
Nope. The Epstein stuff has been around since 2008. The left assumed Clinton would win in 2016, and up until the last few months before the election, that was a safe assumption. The Russian collusion schtick was only cooked up after Hillary’s e-mail fiasco became public. Some of the documentation of that is now public.
 
Sure, it was cooked up that like 3 members of Trump's campaign team were prosecuted for their collusion with Russia. It was cooked up that Trump Jr showed up to a hotel when promised by Russians they could provide dirt on Hillary. It was cooked up that Roger Stone was going to work with prosecutors for his involvement with Russia, until Trump dangled a pardon his way and he stopped complying. I could fill a thread with all of the stuff found that were extremely concerning but you'd put your fingers into your ears and just ignore it now, like you did then.

Your bit about the left assuming, that's you creating a narrative to avoid reality, just like you avoiding the fact that there was a lot of smoke on the Russian collusion scandal.

Answer me this, how does Gabbard claim that there's not evidence that Russia and Putin wanted Trump elected, when we had a long term CIA asset sitting in the room with Putin and feeding us that Putin was very much trying to get Trump into the White House. Is she just dumb?
 
If all you’re looking for is a way to shame Trump, that might work, unless his inclusion in the files is benign and doesn’t implicate him in any crimes. The only way to get other convictions will require her testimony,

And that kind of testimony would be in a courtroom of criminal law, not before Congress.

Look, the whole reason we're even talking about the Epstein files is because the surrogates of the guy you voted for wouldn't shut the **** up about them during the campaign and promised to reveal 'the truth' about them once they came to office.

The whole sordid issue was politicized in an attempt to suggest Democrats were the party of perverts. As it turns out, MAGA is the dog that chased the car and now that they finally caught up with the car, they're complaining about how bad the tires taste.

so if justice really is the goal then additional prosecutions will be needed.

Correct, but additional convictions are unlikely at this point, and even if they wanted to pursue new prosecutions, they don't need Maxwell to testify before Congress. They have whatever evidence they need already. Convicts can still testify, sometimes in return for leniency. Pardoning Maxwell would be a massive miscarriage of justice. It's bad enough she's been moved into a lower security facility for reasons we can only speculate about.

The only one who stands to benefit from having Maxwell pardoned and then testifying before Congress is Trump and whoever else is implicated.
 
Jesus, I wish you people would stop with the retarded notion that someone you disagree with is a Trump supporter. I’ve never voted for the man.

Testimony before Congress can, and has led to criminal referrals to the DOJ. If others committed crimes I’d like to see them have their day in court. I honestly don’t care who is implicated and if they’re guilty, they need to go to prison.
 
Granting her immunity or a pardon would make it easier for prosecutors or Congress to question her since the 5th amendment would no longer apply.
She's not going to testify against him. She is terrified of him. She has known for a very long time that he is very powerful, gets what he wants, and is not afraid of the law. He probably had Jeffery killed.
 
Whataboutism alert!
 
She does.
 
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