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Gun Control Advocates In Court Can Eat Their Words

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DebateChallenge

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This guy exposes the gun grabbers for what they are and he makes it very clear how they set such bad examples and constantly embarrass themselves.
 
DebateChallenge said:
This guy exposes the gun grabbers for what they are and he makes it very clear how they set such bad examples and constantly embarrass themselves.
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And where is your counter video that exposes gun owners for what they are ?

You don't have one ?
You prefer a one sided argument ?

Let me guess as to you attitude towards such a video....
 
Rich2018 said:
And where is your counter video that exposes gun owners for what they are ?

You don't have one ?
You prefer a one sided argument ?

Let me guess as to you attitude towards such a video....
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Well, what do you think gun owners are?

I am one, so I can tell you if you are correct about me.
 
Rich2018 said:
And where is your counter video that exposes gun owners for what they are ?

You don't have one ?
You prefer a one sided argument ?

Let me guess as to you attitude towards such a video....
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what do you claim that would expose?
 
Rich2018 said:
I don't know...seemingly the OP refuses to post a video to enlighten us.
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You need a video to show what law-abiding gun owners are?

Just ask me.

I'll be glad to tell you.
 
Rich2018 said:
No, but gun lovers' penchant for YouTube, might make they penny drop for them.

I say might.
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well you can search the transcript of the oral argument and do what that pro-gun fellow did, but on the behalf of the NYS attorneys who think carry licenses are privileges that only the rich and connected should get
 
TurtleDude said:
well you can search the transcript of the oral argument and do what that pro-gun fellow did, but on the behalf of the NYS attorneys who think carry licenses are privileges that only the rich and connected should get
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I agree that a CCW should be regarded as a privilege

And I think only law enforcement (plus licensed security agencies) should have them.
 
Rich2018 said:
I agree that a CCW should be regarded as a privilege

And I think only law enforcement (plus licensed security agencies) should have them.
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of course you feel that way, you want criminals to have a big advantage over honest people on the streets.
 
TurtleDude said:
of course you feel that way, you want criminals to have a big advantage over honest people on the streets.
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No, I don't think that criminals should carry guns concealed either

I don't think people should be legally able to bear arms on public property (or private property without the owner's consent either).
 
Rich2018 said:
No, I don't think that criminals should carry guns concealed either

I don't think people should be legally able to bear arms on public property (or private property without the owner's consent either).
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The good news is that our laws are not in conformity with your views
 
Rich2018 said:
...and we have more mass shootings than days in the year (434 in 2019).

And that's "Good News" ?

Pass.
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the MSM hypes mass shootings, which are a minor cause of violent criminal murders in the USA. They hype it, because they try to convince the stupid and the gullible, that these types of shootings (unlike the far more common cases of felons killing other mopes) can be controlled by gun bans
 
TurtleDude said:
the MSM hypes mass shootings, which are a minor cause of violent criminal murders in the USA.
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No, they're not "minor" at all. They are a stain on the face of the USA.

TurtleDude said:
....they hype it...
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And so they should

Mass shootings are something the USA should be ashamed of, not treat it as pile of dirt to be swept under the carpet.

But you don't want to hear that do you ?
Because accepting that it's a problem, means accepting a solution is required, and that might mean you losing your precious toys.
 
Rich2018 said:
And where is your counter video that exposes gun owners for what they are ?

You don't have one ?
You prefer a one sided argument ?

Let me guess as to you attitude towards such a video....
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If you know anything about the world of gun ownership you will find that gun owners vary tremendously and come from all walks of life, so you can't say that gun owners are exactly like this or exactly like that as there is so much variance. The only thing that gun owners have in common is that they own guns.
 
Rich2018 said:
I agree that a CCW should be regarded as a privilege
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Nope, the 2A identifies the right to keep and bear arms. The word "bear" in this context means to carry.
Rich2018 said:
And I think only law enforcement (plus licensed security agencies) should have them.
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No, that's a double standard.
 
DebateChallenge said:
If you know anything about the world of gun ownership you will find that gun owners vary tremendously and come from all walks of life, so you can't say that gun owners are exactly like this or exactly like that as there is so much variance. The only thing that gun owners have in common is that they own guns.
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And they share one common trait - they all like guns.

DebateChallenge said:
Nope, the 2A identifies the right to keep and bear arms. The word "bear" in this context means to carry.
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Yes it does.

DebateChallenge said:
No, that's a double standard.
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No it's not. It's a recognition of law enforcement's greater need
The same way that the military need nuclear weapons

I asked you recently why a civilian would need a firearm capable of laying down suppressive fire - typically you dodged and delved into a fantasy of 'what if there were an end times apocalypse"
Yeah well, that answer belongs with the contingencies for alien invasion and zombie rising from the dead.
Can you cease dodging and give a real world answer ?

DebateChallenge said:
And passing the kind of gun laws that you want won't reduce the number of mass shootings.
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Yes it will
Significantly less guns = significantly less shootings. It's that simple.
 
DebateChallenge said:
And passing the kind of gun laws that you want won't reduce the number of mass shootings.
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That would not be intention. Unless of course you can name even one law that helped reduce a crime. Criminals do not stop being a criminal simply because a law has been passed that is against whatever activity they are doing.

Your comment is basically nothing more than another example of "think up a stupid reason for doing something."
 
soylentgreen said:
That would not be intention. Unless of course you can name even one law that helped reduce a crime. Criminals do not stop being a criminal simply because a law has been passed that is against whatever activity they are doing.

Your comment is basically nothing more than another example of "think up a stupid reason for doing something."
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QED. His logical reasoning is generally flawed.
 
Rich2018 said:
No, they're not "minor" at all. They are a stain on the face of the USA.



And so they should

Mass shootings are something the USA should be ashamed of, not treat it as pile of dirt to be swept under the carpet.

But you don't want to hear that do you ?
Because accepting that it's a problem, means accepting a solution is required, and that might mean you losing your precious toys.
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you are not making objectively based arguments. minor is a number. Mass shootings in California account for less than 5 deaths a year over the last 30 years. That is minor. You want to bray about them and pretend they are a major issue, because you think mass shootings are better ammo for your attack on our gun rights than most violent gun related homicides because most of those involve felons using firearms that are already illegal for them to own
 
soylentgreen said:
All the pro gun logic is flawed because it is based on fear of not having a gun instead of a good reason to have a gun.
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what a stupid lie. You pretend that there is no good reason to own a gun.
 
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