You have zero credibility on this issue, or on pretty much any issue for that matter. Buzz off.
Links for what, champ? You don't even know what questions to ask.And YOU do
Please use with your vast knowledge on this subject by providing us with a link to support your ridiculous claim.
As John Macenroe used to yell at referees, and now screams in his commercial, "You have GOT to be kidding"! :roll:
Yeah, pot meet kettle.
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out! :2wave:
I thought you stopped reading. Did you forget already?Oh goody. What's next? The keyboard toughguy routine, right?
BTW, I'm not going anywhere. Deal with it.
:2wave:
Cliches become that for a reason, usually there is a pretty good utility behind it.I must say, the term 'douche bag' is highly overused at this site... :rofl
What I'm trying to point out to the self-righteous douchebags who think all offshore drilling should be shut down permanently is that they're cutting off their noses to spite their own faces. It is short-sighted and idiotic, even more so than assuming that fossil fuels won't run out.
These people are too stupid to realize that, since there are not now any alternatives to petroleum, shutting down offshore drilling will simply make everything we now buy more expensive and make the US even more beholden to Mexico, Canada, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, etc. They are too stupid to realize that they are directly benefiting from offshore drilling, thus they themselves are part of "the problem," so it is absolutely ridiculous and the height of hypocrisy for them to start pointing fingers at the big, bad oil companies.
I'm most definitely not in favor of environmental degredation of any sort, despite the words that some of the brain-dead on this thread seek to place in my mouth. Yes, this spill is a tremendous disaster with long-reaching negative effects. It shouldn't just be glossed over.
But at the same time, it isn't the end of the world, and it is not some sort of endemic problem. This month the US was operating 1,482 rigs in the Gulf. 1,481 of them had no major problems. This whole issue is in serious need of a little perspective.
I thought you stopped reading. Did you forget already?
Like I said, mind the door.Oops...
.. it was the "parse the quote" game..
My bad. Have fun, I don't roll in the gutter, so you'll have to find another playmate.
Why should anyone waste their time trying to have a reasonable conversation with someone that layers on insults and name-calling as if they add to the discussion?
"self-righteous douchebags" . That's where I stop reading.
WTG Mr.
The bolded part is spoken like someone who just lost the argument. Who I know means I know what's going on out there, you do not, period. I am qualified to take positions and make predictions because I have people telling me what's going on, you have talking points. You don't know what a true crisis is and we're gonna leave it at that.Who you claim to "know" and where you live is irrelevant. Experts (people who actually DO have specific knowledge of oil spills) aren't yet sure of the extent this catastrophic event will have. You certainly aren't anywhere near qualified to make predictions. NO ONE, outside of bought and paid for oil industry shills and apologists thinks this CRISIS "is no big deal." Say whatever the &*#% you please. It is a VERY BIG DEAL and is likely to become an even BIGGER DEAL as time progresses.
Great, take it somewhere it will be appreciated like a DNC convention, drum circle, or the next Earth Day, but it's still coming from a position of zero working knowledge of the subject and frankly not worthy of serious consideration.You're gawddamn right I have "an agenda" ...
And now you insert the crocodile tears for people you could care less about until it affects the politics or gives your agenda leverage. I care about those people because they are my fellow Louisianians and could care less about your talking points, especially since you don't have a clue about the situation.. it's the livelihoods of shrimpers, fishermen, the tourist industry, etc, and the desecration of untold millions of acres of critical coastline habitats and the creatures that have lived there for eons, that now face a possible extinction.
Links for what, champ? You don't even know what questions to ask.
Go educate yourself or prepare to be clowned yet again.
Some people can't express themselves civilly so, they have to resort to bullying. It's akin to being annoyed by a swarm of mosquitos. When you call them on some ridiculous claim, asking them to provide any evidence, they can't because they were bull****ting. Then, being out of options they... call... people names. Oi vey! :doh
Studies have shown that rigs and pipelines are only responsible for 2% of the oil in US waters. Shutting down offshore drilling for this reason alone would be of practically no effect.For the measly amount that's harvested vs. the amount of damage that it creates, call me crazy, but I guess I am one of those douchbags that thinks it should be shut down.
Are you willing to accept the exponential rise in all goods and services due to $10 gas? I'm not.It's a double-edged sword, Coronado. Offshore drilling is a band-aid solution. It give a little more life into our oil dependent lifestyle that most of us only know. But it HAS to change eventually. And the only way it's going to is desperation. As long as things are mostly status quo, NOTHING will change. So I am all for $10.00 a gallon gas.
Offshore drilling accounts for about a quarter of US production.Furthermore, I doubt that the pittance of oil we retrieve off-shore will make a dent, especially in the amounts we use! However, I am not sure of this, so let me look it up.
Thank you!I don't think you are and I agree that the impact is disastrous.
We can play "what if" all day long. Right now, Deepwater Horizon accounts for less than 1% of all the rigs out there. Like I said upthread, what else are you willing to shut down because of a less than 1% failure rate?It only takes one mistake. Can you imaging if they'd all fail?
You don't read so good, do you? :roflRunning away again, ehh? :2wave:
I'm easy to find, sweetheart.I'm quite familiar with those tactics. I'm fairly new to this site, but not to BBs in general. Personally, I find net bullies to always be nothing but cowards wearing a mask of anonymous courage. Big talk hiding behind a modem and nothing more. Every site has some. But this is off topic, so I'll let it go there.
… All they care about is this tragedy softening the blow their party will take over Obamacare and the other idiotic legislation coming from this regime. It makes me sick to think these automatons can't get past partisanship to actually discuss anything intelligently.
… The people that live on that coast have been through a hell of a lot worse than this oil spill and they will still be there fishing ten years from now.
Oil slick poses political peril for Obama - Washington TimesThe rapidly expanding environmental catastrophe caused by the oil spill off the coast of Louisiana is presenting a growing political challenge to the Obama White House, with Mr. Obama and his aides at pains to defend the response and forestall comparisons to the Hurricane Katrina crisis.
Nine days after British Petroleum's Deepwater Horizon oil rig blew apart and began spewing 5,000 barrels of oil a day into the Gulf of Mexico, a massive oil slick is set to wash ashore on the southern coast Thursday evening and, experts say, could dwarf the damage caused by the Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska.
Failure to get control of the relief effort and contain the environmental challenge could pose the same kind of political threat to Mr. Obama's popular standing that the much-criticized handling of the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina did for former President George W. Bush. And unlike Katrina, it is likely the federal government will be the clear lead authority in dealing with the BP spill.
You really are good at these 'apples and oranges' type comments, ain't ya?
The Exxon Valdez happened in the middle of nowhere. You know, Alaska! (Where the population is so small that an idiot can get elected as Governor.)
How many businesses do you think were adversely impacted by the Valdez spill?
How many businesses do you think this spill will affect? Say, from the western border of Louisiana to the western border of Florida. (And that's a conservative estimate. With the wind blowing from the south east to the north west this very well could hit Texas.) :doh
This accident is going to impact the southern coast of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and maybe Texas and Florida.
At the rate of the current spill rate of 210,000 gallons per day this accident could spill more than the 11 millions the Exxon Valdez spilled... and then some!
Look up the populations affected by the Valdez accident and this one. The internet can help you. :doh
Only for people who don't live there and don't care about those who do.
Isn't this one more thing that those hardy, resilient people will have to deal with? Four storms and now this? They will survive it, too, no doubt, but wasn't this a blow they should never have had to deal with? Natural disasters are one thing, but, this was human caused; one which some are already saying was completely avoidable. Now, we see some of the consequences when oversight is shortchanged (we had two oil men in the White House for eight of the last ten years) and companies focus on short term returns on investment.
I'm not sure how losing a rig, several workers and tens of thousands of barrels of oil is in their short-term interest. :shrug:Isn't this one more thing that those hardy, resilient people will have to deal with? Four storms and now this? They will survive it, too, no doubt, but wasn't this a blow they should never have had to deal with? Natural disasters are one thing, but, this was human caused; one which some are already saying was completely avoidable. Now, we see some of the consequences when oversight is shortchanged (we had two oil men in the White House for eight of the last ten years) and companies focus on short term returns on investment.
… Remember you must never fail to take advantage of a good crisis for political gain.
Wow, I'm impressed. Only took 168 posts before someone blamed this on Bush. :roll:
I think it's not about using a crisis for political gain but about using it to effect change to protect society from suffering the same avoidable negative consequences again.
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