StringBean
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who cares, let them eat **** and drink piss
That doesn't make Gitmo "torture." What you're really saying is that taking someone out of a potentially inhumane situation (Eqypt, whatever) and putting them in a much more humane situation is somehow "torture" or at least equivalent to the inhumane prison conditions.
As for the hunger strikers, it's their choice; let them do whatever they wish. If that includes starving themselves to death, it's their own call.
If we wish to be a moral authority, we must adhere to principles.
Even when they're terrorists.
Well in the case i mentioned the guy was taken from Afganistan, to Egypt to Guantanamo,.
Hunger strikes or inflicted starvation? *shrugs* The world may never know.
Not saying America = NAZI state but nazi secret police used camps to starve people then shifted them to other camps saying they were "sick". Seeing as all this crap is secret how do we know this isnt going on under America's wings also? Shut the prisons down.
I hate when idiots try to say waterboarding isn't torture because they seen some guy pour a pitcher of water over some dudes face on the news. They haven't seen the 4 inch diameter piping they stick people under. That much water-flow is enough to kill a human.
If we wish to be a moral authority, we must adhere to principles.
Even when they're terrorists.
That is not acceptable. It would be too easy for a secret prison with no public oversight to start murdering prisoners via starvation and blaming it on "their own rebelliousness". The place needs to be opened up to inspection by the public and they need to be fed.
sorry what? You will have to explain yourself here as I'm not following your standard grant ranting's.
So what?
You don't see how the fact the CIA took the guy to Eygpt anyhow negates the fact they took him there? really?
Wow some pretty disgraceful comments on here from so called "Americans". Here was me thinking that the US was built on law, order and justice not mob rule thank god no one here has any political influence.
Hate is not healthy.
No one has yet dies form water-boarding, but it has saved many lives.
Hunger strikes or inflicted starvation? *shrugs* The world may never know.
Not saying America = NAZI state but nazi secret police used camps to starve people then shifted them to other camps saying they were "sick". Seeing as all this crap is secret how do we know this isnt going on under America's wings also? Shut the prisons down.
How do we know it's going on the way you say?
Hate is not healthy.
No one has yet dies form water-boarding, but it has saved many lives.
Torture is not designed soley to kill, whether death happens as a result of the torture is a sign of how brutal the interrogators are. Torture is meant to inflict pain, to physically and mentally damage it's victims in order to break down the will to resist.
Water boarding is torture, it is subjecting the victim to feel the effects of drowning. It is torture.
Most would prefer we shut down terrorism. I see far more people blaming Americans for their response to terrorism than blaming the terrorists themselves.
Me and you do not know that unless you happen to be the overseer of these secret prisons?
Nobody died from water-boarding and it has saved many, many lives. That is the reality.
It is an excellent means of gaining much needed information and the terrorists have not complained. It is their defenders who do that.
If terrorists don't like water-boarding perhaps they should pursue other interests.
The truth is its both's fault.
People may say that I hate America but in fact I love it. America breeds hatred with its foreign policies and others are too willing to use hatred as an excuse to do wrong. Im not saying ITS AMERICAS FAULT.
But to say that our foreign policies (Overseas Contingency Operations) do not breed terrorists is dishonest.
How many people were broken mentally due to constant waterboarding?
How many took their own lives rather than relive the pain
The point of torture is not to kill, it is to break the will to resist.
How many people were broken mentally due to constant waterboarding? How many took their own lives rather than relive the pain
We shatter the minds and destroy the very humainity of those we torture and you say we save lives because of it.
We have damaged more lives by torture than save, and we have lost the moral authority to condem the actions of far worse purpatraitors of torture, such as Uzbekistan and china.
Read more @: Guantanamo hunger strike growing - Americas - Al Jazeera English
More and more detainees in Guantanamo are on a hunger strike because they thought it was going to close but as we all know they have not. Im not surprised that no media outlet in the US is really reporting on this. [/FONT][/COLOR]
In fact neither of knows what goes on in any prisons anywhere. We have to assume that laws are being followed and responsibilities carried out.
Why this interest in Gitmo?
Certainly there are other prisons around the world that have more serious problems than Gitmo. Why focus your attention on the well being of terrorists?
Mexico-Prison Conditions Criminal Justice System
Inside the UK's toughest youth prison - Mirror Online
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