Boo Radley
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I mean no response from credible posters. Someone besides my tag along wipping boy.
Sure Iraq probably had small amounts of chemicals which has been revealed by WikiLeaks cables but "very small amount". Not close enough to start production again.
I mean no response from credible posters. Someone besides my tag along wipping boy.
It looks to me as if you are the whipping boy. You don't answer, even when given the answer.
Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison | World news | The Guardian
Here is the file with the fifteen year old boy that was a kidnap victim
I'm not shocked that these people would "interrogate" children. People that supported in keeping this prison are sick and I hate that Obama is keeping it open. Yeah, lets keep open a prison were children were interrogated for being terrorist
This information was not learned through waterboarding, let's first make that clear.
That's as far as I could get. Where do you lefties come up with this BS?
Even Panetta admits EIT's gave us the info that led to OBL.
The CIA interrogators confirm that KSM was not cooperating until he was waterboarded. After that he sang like a baby. Same thing with the other two.
please show us panetta's quote that you are referencing
Please pay attention to current events.
Yet another link dependent poster.
This might be i sign that you do not have a source for this...
Please pay attention to current events.
Yet another link dependent poster.
so, you are unable to cite the statement you insist was made
thanks for evidencing your posts are without credibility; that you think it is ok to make **** up
Damn you are thick. If you refuse to read the ISG report why bother to talk about it?
These two paragraphs are irrefutable and put the nail in your coffin whether you realize it or not.
Saddam wanted to recreate Iraq’s WMD capability—which was essentially destroyed in 1991—after sanctions
were removed and Iraq’s economy stabilized, but probably with a different mix of capabilities to that
which previously existed. Saddam aspired to develop a nuclear capability—in an incremental fashion,
irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks—but he intended to focus on ballistic
missile and tactical chemical warfare (CW) capabilities.
ISG uncovered Iraqi plans or designs for three long-range ballistic missiles with ranges from 400 to 1,000
km and for a 1,000-km-range cruise missile, although none of these systems progressed to production and
only one reportedly passed the design phase. ISG assesses that these plans demonstrate Saddam’s continuing
desire—up to the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF)—for a long-range delivery capability.
Bubba, I'm still waiting for you to address article 4 and 5 of the GC.
You shot your mouth off on that one as well without knowing WTF you were talking about.
Did you think I forgot? That was right here in this very thread. Remember?
Wrong. Please look up Ali Soufan. FBI interrogator who got KSM talking with normal methods. NYT op Ed "my tortured decision."That's as far as I could get. Where do you lefties come up with this BS?
Even Panetta admits EIT's gave us the info that led to OBL.
The CIA interrogators confirm that KSM was not cooperating until he was waterboarded. After that he sang like a baby. Same
thing with the other two.
What is your whole point on the Geneva Convention especially articles 4 and 5? What is your argument here?
Wrong. Please look up Ali Soufan. FBI interrogator who got KSM talking with normal methods. NYT op Ed "my tortured decision."
Reasons for going to war with Iraq: Iraq had WMD's.
The report you are stating from the ISG was the Duelfer Report i believe. It was released in late September of 2004. It also states that "Saddam ended his nuclear program in 1991. ISG found no evidence of concerted efforts to restart the program, and Iraq’s ability to reconstitute a nuclear weapons program progressively decayed after 1991." Also "Iraq destroyed its chemical weapons stockpile in 1991, and only a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions were discovered by the ISG." Also it states "Saddam's regime abandoned its biological weapons program and its ambition to obtain advanced biological weapons in 1995. While it could have re-established an elementary BW program within weeks, ISG discovered no indications it was pursuing such a course." Also it states what you have been repeating and repeating over and over again. I get that..
In March of 2005 the ISG released another report entitled Addenda. In the report it stated "any remaining chemical munitions in Iraq do not pose a militarily significant threat." Also "Iraq’s remaining chemical and biological physical infrastructure does not pose a proliferation concern".
you are the one who has insisted the Geneva Conventions do not apply to those imprisoned at guantanamo
and you have been asked to provide the language of the GC which excludes those prisoners from the provisions of the GC - to document your position has a valid premise
you have been unable/unwilling to do so
but let me offer you a second chance, so that you are not recognized as cowardly slinking away from the challenge to prove your assertion
and to help you, here is a cite
Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions - New York Times
Op-Ed Contributor - My Tortured Decision - NYTimes.comKSM did not cooperate until he was waterboarded. That's an irrefutable fact. Nice try.
NYT op Ed
:lamo
Ali Soufan said:One of the worst consequences of the use of these harsh techniques was that it reintroduced the so-called Chinese wall between the C.I.A. and F.B.I., similar to the communications obstacles that prevented us from working together to stop the 9/11 attacks. Because the bureau would not employ these problematic techniques, our agents who knew the most about the terrorists could have no part in the investigation. An F.B.I. colleague of mine who knew more about Khalid Shaikh Mohammed than anyone in the government was not allowed to speak to him.
For the love.
What part of "Saddam aspired to develop a nuclear capability" do you not understand.
You lefties always stop reading once you find something you like. Read the whole report before making a conclusion.
The ISG also said this about Saddam's Nuclear program. You must have missed it.
Baghdad undertook a variety of measures to conceal key elements of its nuclear program from successive
UN inspectors, including specifi c direction by Saddam Husayn to hide and preserve documentation associated
with Iraq’s nuclear program.
ISG, for example, uncovered two specifi c instances in which scientists involved in uranium enrichment kept
documents and technology. Although apparently acting on their own, they did so with the belief and anticipation
of resuming uranium enrichment efforts in the future.
Starting around 1992, in a bid to retain the intellectual core of the former weapons program, Baghdad
transferred many nuclear scientists to related jobs in the Military Industrial Commission (MIC). The work
undertaken by these scientists at the MIC helped them maintain their weapons knowledge base.
ISG found a limited number of post-1995 activities that would have aided the reconstitution of the
nuclear weapons program once sanctions were lifted.
The Regime prevented scientists from the former nuclear weapons program from leaving either their jobs or
Iraq. Moreover, in the late 1990s, personnel from both MIC and the IAEC received signifi cant pay raises in
a bid to retain them, and the Regime undertook new investments in university research in a bid to ensure that
Iraq retained technical knowledge.
You own reports showw that Saddam did not meet what Bush claimed.
There were no active, groing programs.
Things that COULD do anything in the furture doesn't equal doing them.
[Do your research.
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