Great explainer article on Kavanaugh

Threegoofs said:

This is about the best ‘explainer’ type article I’ve read on the Kavanaugh issue- especially what his behavior in High School was based upon and what is real vs showing off.

I’ve known a lot of these guys in my life, and high school and college was full of these types. They were privileged, awkward kids who used humiliation, often of women, as their currency to be the cool guys. They were often really smart, well spoken and super polite around the adults - and generally seen as model teens. But man... they got away with a boatload of stuff - drinking was huge, drugs were sometimes a big thing - but not for all, and they all did it while pulling straight A’s in AP courses and acing college entrance tests... with a little help from expensive Princeton Review courses and other perks of privilege.

The odd stories about Kavanaugh claiming he was a virgin until well after high school and a hard working nerd completely makes sense... because he very well was both of those things. He wasn’t assaulting women as a sexual outlet - he was doing it purely to impress the guys - his peer group - who all egged each other on and are going to protect each other forever. It’s actually really common, and its clearly written by a guy who understands the psyche.

Some people here on DP understand this psyche well - in fact, at least one is certainly part of a group like this (although probably more of a wannabe than an in- guy), or knows them very, very well. The stuff Kavanaugh did dont necessarily qualify as crimes, but they do suggest bad judgement, and his obvious lies about them suggest an inability to understand issues of simple justice, which is something that would be nice to see in a Supreme Court Justice.

It’s worth a read and a think.

Brett Kavanaugh allegations and male bonding.*

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Threegoofs said:

This is about the best ‘explainer’ type article I’ve read on the Kavanaugh issue- especially what his behavior in High School was based upon and what is real vs showing off.

I’ve known a lot of these guys in my life, and high school and college was full of these types. They were privileged, awkward kids who used humiliation, often of women, as their currency to be the cool guys. They were often really smart, well spoken and super polite around the adults - and generally seen as model teens. But man... they got away with a boatload of stuff - drinking was huge, drugs were sometimes a big thing - but not for all, and they all did it while pulling straight A’s in AP courses and acing college entrance tests... with a little help from expensive Princeton Review courses and other perks of privilege.

The odd stories about Kavanaugh claiming he was a virgin until well after high school and a hard working nerd completely makes sense... because he very well was both of those things. He wasn’t assaulting women as a sexual outlet - he was doing it purely to impress the guys - his peer group - who all egged each other on and are going to protect each other forever. It’s actually really common, and its clearly written by a guy who understands the psyche.

Some people here on DP understand this psyche well - in fact, at least one is certainly part of a group like this (although probably more of a wannabe than an in- guy), or knows them very, very well. The stuff Kavanaugh did dont necessarily qualify as crimes, but they do suggest bad judgement, and his obvious lies about them suggest an inability to understand issues of simple justice, which is something that would be nice to see in a Supreme Court Justice.

It’s worth a read and a think.

Brett Kavanaugh allegations and male bonding.*

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cpwill said:

I like it. What an excellent example of "He's Just The Type" argument.


Much like that used against blacks, for example. I mean, you know how they're so much more likely to be criminals. A poor black? He's just the thug type - look, he's even wearing a hoodie, and smoking weed.


Also useful for explaining why women who everyone knows are just the type to be seeking attention can't be trusted (poor emotional dears, they probably just went hysterical again - you know how so many women are just like that) when they try to claim that some guy "sexually assaulted" them :roll:

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Threegoofs said:

While you have a good point- that’s not the point of the article.

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It’s a great summary of how the stories all fit into a coherent whole. And it’s an explanation of the culture, which many are probably unfamiliar with.

I mentioned to read and think about it. Not sure if you did either.

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noonereal said:

Sounds about right.

A screwed up kid who grew up to be a weirdo.

Honest, no sex till well after college?

This just ain't normal. .

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cpwill said:

Ah. Well, in that case, you should have a talk with whoever authored the OP, because THEY claimed that this article explained the specific person KAVANAUGH.

So it's just like how blacks like to listen to thug rap about raping hoes and killing cops - it's all part of their culture, right? It's just the sort of thing They do.

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Threegoofs said:

This is about the best ‘explainer’ type article I’ve read on the Kavanaugh issue- especially what his behavior in High School was based upon and what is real vs showing off.

I’ve known a lot of these guys in my life, and high school and college was full of these types. They were privileged, awkward kids who used humiliation, often of women, as their currency to be the cool guys. They were often really smart, well spoken and super polite around the adults - and generally seen as model teens. But man... they got away with a boatload of stuff - drinking was huge, drugs were sometimes a big thing - but not for all, and they all did it while pulling straight A’s in AP courses and acing college entrance tests... with a little help from expensive Princeton Review courses and other perks of privilege.

The odd stories about Kavanaugh claiming he was a virgin until well after high school and a hard working nerd completely makes sense... because he very well was both of those things. He wasn’t assaulting women as a sexual outlet - he was doing it purely to impress the guys - his peer group - who all egged each other on and are going to protect each other forever. It’s actually really common, and its clearly written by a guy who understands the psyche.

Some people here on DP understand this psyche well - in fact, at least one is certainly part of a group like this (although probably more of a wannabe than an in- guy), or knows them very, very well. The stuff Kavanaugh did dont necessarily qualify as crimes, but they do suggest bad judgement, and his obvious lies about them suggest an inability to understand issues of simple justice, which is something that would be nice to see in a Supreme Court Justice.

It’s worth a read and a think.

Brett Kavanaugh allegations and male bonding.*

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Threegoofs said:

So you don’t think that understanding the culture of some black guy who talks about raping hoes and killing cops is worthwhile?

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I guess you’d have to *think* to get the point.

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Threegoofs said:

While you have a good point- that’s not the point of the article.

It’s a great summary of how the stories all fit into a coherent whole. And it’s an explanation of the culture, which many are probably unfamiliar with.

I mentioned to read and think about it. Not sure if you did either.

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KevinKohler said:

So he's definitely 100% guilty?

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cpwill said:

I don't think it would be useful in determining someone's guilt at all, any more than "everyone knowing" "women are more emotional" should be used to discredit a claim of sexual assault.



I think you made it plain in the a OP. An explanation of KAVANAUGH. Because You Know How They Are.


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chuckiechan said:

So you are profiling Kvanaugh because he was from a rich family, and some kids from rich families get drunk and do bad things.

If the rich boys are capable, then so are the rich girls.

There is as much evidence that Kavanaugh assaulted her as there is evidence that she pulled a gang bang when he was nowhere around.

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Threegoofs said:

Brett Kavanaugh allegations and male bonding.*

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Threegoofs said:

Here’s why Kavanagh is unqualified regardless of the veracity of these allegations.

He’s a liar.

And serial liars shouldn’t be on the Supreme Court.

Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh is hard to believe

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Threegoofs said:

So you just don’t think understanding someone’s cultural background might help you understand their motivations or actions.

Interesting.

Makes sense tho.

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Threegoofs said:

So you just don’t think understanding someone’s cultural background might help you understand their motivations or actions.

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Roadvirus said:

Slate? Figures. Moving on.....

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cpwill said:

Uh. You know this article presents zero evidence that Kavanaugh lied about anything? It simply cites Diane Feinstein saying he was dishonest. Heck, if it's that easy, I'll go cite McConnel (or someone) saying that he's a great judge, and telling the truth. Easy Peasy.

It does insinuate he lied, alluding to a popular charge that Democrats tried to spread around which was so far of a reach that even VOX pointed out that what they were claiming was a lie, probably wasn't. Or, if left-wing sources aren't enough, and you want something a bit more legally academic, an an Excellent Dismantling of the perjury argument by the founder of the magazine whose writer made the original argument.

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Threegoofs said:

No. Please read and think.

And then realize you can’t keep up.

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cpwill said:

It's not statistically the most prevalent, but it is normal. I know plenty of folks who did (I did); especially in religious households, more folks are likely to try to hold off till marriage, etc.

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