No... y'all vowed to leave the country.Hmm... well you're right. The left sure did a lot of complaining about the stolen election.
I don't remember however, talks about secession, revolution, hoping for the president to fail, voting from the roof tops...
People I talked to today were absolutely furious about these protests. They couldn't believe that all those rich stupid republicans were yelling in the street because they wanted to pay even less in taxes and take away money from police departments and garbage men, etc.
It was really surprising to see how angry liberals got over this.
That some things are worth fighting for, even if you might lose, and that doing so might make a real mess?Do any of you right wingers know what happend last time Texas as well as 10 other states that it would be okay to use the10th Amendment to tear this country apart 149 years ago?
Don't you realized the issue of seccession has already been settled with a war that pretty much dessimated the southeast part of our nation for at least a generation?
What are you people thinking? What is Rick Perry thinking? Are you thinking??
The only thing the Civil War "settled" was that Lincoln was willing to shred the Constitution and abandon his oath of office under the presumed virtue of "saving the Union."Don't you realized the issue of seccession has already been settled with a war that pretty much dessimated the southeast part of our nation for at least a generation?
Yes. You cannot argue that the states cannot constituionally leave if they must go thru some procedure to be readmitted to the union.Given that the Radical Republicans under Thad Stevens and Charles Sumner compelled the former Confederate States to be "readmitted" to the Union, they established that secession was indeed possible and plausible, and even permissible.
Yes. You cannot argue that the states cannot constituionally leave if they must go thru some procedure to be readmitted to the union.
Yes. You cannot argue that the states cannot constituionally leave if they must go thru some procedure to be readmitted to the union.
Well, sure. You cannot 're-admit-' someone that never left, and so anything you do to that effect is unjust and wrong.However, you CAN argue that the "readmission" process was unjust and wrong.
Well, sure. You cannot 're-admit-' someone that never left, and so anything you do to that effect is unjust and wrong.
The re-admission process was the outrgowth of Charles Sumner's legal rationalizations of "state suicide" and statewide felo de se.Lincoln was prosecuting the war on the theory that secession is legally impossible. The "readmission" pursued by Congress after he died wasn't of his doing, and by all accounts, he would have opposed it. It was pursued on a different theory from which the war was prosecuted. That process is the outlier, not the notion of indivisibility.
The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration, or revocation, except through revolution, or through consent of the States.
Suddenly secession seems not so extreme.Good Riddance. Texas is already a third world country in many of its backwards mentalities.
Good Riddance. Texas is already a third world country in many of its backwards mentalities.
As an added bonus, that 34 less electoral votes for the GOP and two less GOP Senators that we will have to deal with.
Good Riddance. Texas is already a third world country in many of its backwards mentalities.
As an added bonus, that 34 less electoral votes for the GOP and two less GOP Senators that we will have to deal with.
What, if anything, did that add to the conversation except to prove that your perceptions are hysterical, warped, mega-super-jumbo-hyperpartisan, and uncalled for?
I support the Governor's call.
The rest is just added bonus.
The only thing the Civil War "settled" was that Lincoln was willing to shred the Constitution and abandon his oath of office under the presumed virtue of "saving the Union."
That some things are worth fighting for, even if you might lose, and that doing so might make a real mess?
Sort of like when you made that really lame attempt at convincing the daft that Rush Limbaugh was the leader of the GOP?
You push the dailykos talking points like it's your job or something.
Never been to the dailykos....don't have the time, although from what I hear...I'd probably like it. I spend too much time here and on facebook...don't even have enough time for TMZ and Towelroad...or whatever it is.
Although...I do believe the Rush Limbaugh is the de facto leader of the Republican party...at least at this point in time.
I have never been to TMZ but I do like Perez Hilton on occasion.
Off topic: you didn't, perchance, go to the A list awards did you?
Perez Hilton - I've been there a couple times. TMZ is my favorite though.
I'm not familiar with the "A list awards" ....enlighten me.
BTW...its Towleroad: More than gay news for more gay men.. Have you been there? I think you might like that one. I rarely go to it...but when I do, I always find something of interest.
Here's an audio of Perry saying they can leave the Union if they choose.
Texas Politics: Perry says Texas can leave the union if it wants to
I don't think the Federal government should step in as each state should have a degree of sovereignty I feel the feds have over stepped. The penalty's for crimes in my opinion should be handled by the state unless it is a Federal crime. This would include sentencing and punishment.
I see your point and will just agree to disagree.
No, they cant.
Perry is an idiot who needs to step down.
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