You deserve “special treatment” as an offender of the first order, copying and pasting. You never did own up either. Shameless, too, aye.
Look, I don't know a college educated person who would clean toilets or clear landscaping
Nah you got it right. New Yorkistan is no different.Oh...and look at your California economy...who is in control of legislation there? And how is THAT working out? And damn near every other welfare sta...I mean blue state in the country for that matter...
Really? Because I have a lot of friends who are college graduates or currently in college who do all sorts of jobs from cleaning toilets to answering phones to construction. Of course the majority of my friends grew up in Conservative households where they were taught that hard work no matter what the job is something to be proud of. Funny the way that works huh? I guess all those liberal college kids think they are above that because they sit around and read textbooks then go get S***faced drunk.
Nah you got it right. New Yorkistan is no different.
For all the “historical context” that's being offered up on the Internet, the reality is the argument about birthright citizenship has already been to the Supreme Court.
I personally feel it is deplorable that Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has proposed amending the Constitution. But that's just a huge time consuming distraction; the fourteenth amendment will never be altered and birthright citizen will remain.
Conservatives who are so hot about “anchor babies” demonstrate their ignorance of the real immigration issues challenging this country. They appear to be looking for somebody to blame all their troubles on; but, they don't want somebody who can actually fight back! They want someone vulnerable, someone who can't defend themselves. Their latest victims? “Anchor babies.” Good grief!
No. I did those things when I was young. I'm not going to do it now. There are jobs for teenagers, college students, and adults. I worked in corn fields and cleaned bathrooms as a fast-food employee at that time.
I'm still paying for my college education so I can get paid to do what makes me happy. I don't make a ton of money; but I make enough to get by and at some points in the year, I work up to 100 hours in a week; so that in the summers I have a lot more free time. I also worked at a video store at night as an adult so I could afford to break into my career field by starting up a not-for-profit organization in the day. And today, the organization I work for has an annual economic impact of over $1 million, which is the equivalent of creating 25 jobs a year.
It's only in your fantasy that people who disagree with you don't work hard.
But, what you and many others fail to recognize is that people will only take the jobs that they worked as teens if they're valued properly. They're usually only about $7 - $8 per hour. Thus, most people with a college education won't take those jobs.
Additionally, if I were hiring, I wouldn't hire someone with a college education to do those things, because as soon as a better job comes along, they're out the door.
But you can ignore those practicalities and get back to attacking babies.
… Even China has companies set up to assist mothers to be to come to the US to have the baby. Bingo, another US citizen with non US parents. For many pregnant Chinese, a U.S. passport for baby remains a powerful lure. Something needs to be done to stop this insanity.
And … help me here … and the urgent threat to the nation which requires us to change our Constitution … is … what? Baby Chinese growing up in China with American passports? Really?
I agree with you on this much: “Something needs to be done to stop this insanity.” We just disagree on what the insanity is.
You know that conservatives have gone completely off the deep end when Lou Dobbs of all people is the voice of reason in an immigration discussion.
Attacking the foundational principle that all people born in the United States of America are full and equal citizens is about as anti-American as it gets in my opinion. I look around and I see a lot of anti-Americans.
Then I guess the Founders were anti-American, since the 14th amendment didn't exist.
“They're going to fire up their base, but I think it's a damaging strategy for independents. If I'm an independent and I look at [GOP Gov.] Rick Perry saying Texas is going to secede from the union, and now I hear the Republican Party saying repeal the 14th Amendment — which has done so much good for the country — I'm beginning to worry that these guys are cuckoo.
“Not all Republicans – there are plenty of good ones – but there are a lot of people who are nuts in there.”
— Gov. Ed Rendell (D-PA)¹
“The 14th Amendment is a great legacy of the Republican party. It is a shame and an embarrassment that the GOP now wants to amend it for starkly political reasons. Initially Republicans rallied around the amendment to welcome more citizens to this country. Now it is being used to drive people away.”
— Mark McKinnon, George W. Bush campaign media advisor²
“That is the wisdom of the authors of the 14th Amendment: They essentially wanted to take this very difficult issue — citizenship — outside of the political realm.”
— Michael Gerson, a former George W. Bush speechwriter, ibid.
Just because other countries do it doesn't mean we should. I see no reason why we should change our laws just because another country does. Do you want to switch to a parliamentary system too?
“That is the wisdom of the authors of the 14th Amendment: They essentially wanted to take this very difficult issue — citizenship — outside of the political realm.” — Michael Gerson, a former George W. Bush speechwriter, ibid.
Cooler heads . . . like Harry Reid?
http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...birthright-citizenship-before-he-against.html
Chappy said:“They've either taken leave of their senses or their principles.” — Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid
Likely, both.
Chappy said:I forgive you for being like far too many other hyperbolic conservatives in being so deplorably ignorant of American history. Consider what happened in America some “four score following the [Constitution's] ratification.” Consider why the fourteenth amendment was necessary at all. The enshrinement in our Constitution of the principle that all persons born in this country are full, equal citizens means there is no underclass in America. It wasn't always so. There use to be an underclass; right up until America conducted the most bloody of all its wars.
Chappy said:Some conservatives in this country it seems would like to undo some of that history. They are despicable in my eyes.
Chappy said:Vicious conservatives intentionally misread these phrases to mean more people, many more people, maybe some members of your family, maybe you.
Chappy said:Can you imagine a twenty five year old who has lived their entire life as an American being told that because it was just discovered that their mother wasn't here legally, something they had no knowledge of or certainly any responsibility for, that they themselves are no longer to be treated as a citizen? It's outrageous and bizarre. Addled brained conservatives (not all conservatives, just the really ****ed up ones) endorse such notions.
Delicious, delicious irony.
Looks like someone's deplorably ignorant of his own party leader's policy proposals.
Beam, eye.
VICIOUS! :lol:
Breaking: Harry Reid = addle brained conservative.
This is never going to get old.
Yes, indeed, this is never going to get old.
“I don't want this to be true confessions, but I want to relate to the Senate that the biggest mistake I ever made, the largest error I ever made was 15 or 18 years ago …
“A group of people came and talked to us and convinced us that the thing to do would be to close the borders between Mexico and the United States; in effect, stop people from coming across our borders to the United States. This period of time for which I am so apologetic-to my family, mostly-lasted about a week or two. I introduced legislation. …
“… [T]hat is a low point of my legislative career, the low point of my governmental career.”
— Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Speech to the Senate, 2006¹
A group of people came and talked to us and convinced us that the thing to do would be to close the borders between Mexico and the United States; in effect, stop people from coming across our borders to the United States. This period of time for which I am so apologetic-to my family, mostly-lasted about a week or two. I introduced legislation. My little wife is 5 feet tall. We have been together for soon to be 50 years. As I said here on the floor a few days ago, her father was born in Russia. He was run out of Russia. His name was Goldfarb, his family. They were Jewish. My wife heard that I had done this. She does not interfere with my legislation. Only when I ask her does she get involved in what I am doing. I didn't ask her about this. She, in effect, said: I can't believe that you have done it. But I had done it.
To compound this, I held a meeting a day or two after being confronted by my wife, a meeting in Las Vegas. It was a townhall meeting to explain this travesty that I called legislation. My friend, Judge John Mendoza, was there, somebody who, when I lost my Senate race in 1974 by 524 votes, spent all night with me consoling me, but he was in that audience. Larry Luna, Larry Mason, Isabelle Pfeiffer, people I had not talked to about this, in addition to my wife, pointed out the errors of my way. I have done everything since that meeting in Las Vegas, in conversation with my wife, to undo my embarrassment.
Yes, indeed, this is never going to get old.
“I don't want this to be true confessions, but I want to relate to the Senate that the biggest mistake I ever made, the largest error I ever made was 15 or 18 years ago …
“A group of people came and talked to us and convinced us that the thing to do would be to close the borders between Mexico and the United States; in effect, stop people from coming across our borders to the United States. This period of time for which I am so apologetic-to my family, mostly-lasted about a week or two. I introduced legislation. …
“… [T]hat is a low point of my legislative career, the low point of my governmental career.”
— Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Speech to the Senate, 2006¹
So if the republicans turn around tomorrow and say that they changed their minds, they'll stop being disgusting, vicious, addle-brained conservatives and become brave american patriots like Harry Reid? Or do you reserve that label for media matters-approved politicians?
This has nothing to do with Republicans or the Republican party (R.I.P.). It has to do with far too many conservatives who have earned those labels through their idiotic pronouncements, rampant bigotry and bald faced deceits. Honestly, haven't you been paying attention at all to the last thirty years in this country? This attack on the fourteenth amendment is just their latest salvo in their reactionary aggression against America.
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