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I think someone should sue for violation of privacy and a violation of the 4th amendment for spying on citizens without a warrant. How is using google earth to spy on citizens to see if they have swimming pools without a warrant any different than the police using FLIR to see if someone is using grow lamps without a warrant?
Why do pools require a permit anyway?
I think someone should sue for violation of privacy and a violation of the 4th amendment for spying on citizens without a warrant. How is using google earth to spy on citizens to see if they have swimming pools without a warrant any different than the police using FLIR to see if someone is using grow lamps without a warrant?
Yea that won't fly, the pools are technically in "plain view" so it would be allowed.
Not if there is a fence unless humans have learned to fly as part of their daily activity.
It's outside, that practically qualifies it as "plain view."
Not that I want them to be able to spy on people but that is the truth.
But its not in plain view unless you are a bird.
Or you have a satellite.
I'm 95% sure any court would say that qualifies as "plain view."
I seriously doubt that. How many people own orbital satellites?
In plain view has always been at ground level. Plain view would not cover Satellite coverage
It's not what I want but that is how a judge will, most likely, look at it.
But its not in plain view unless you are a bird.
Yea that won't fly, the pools are technically in "plain view" so it would be allowed.
I know its not your opinion but I just don't see how you can call a satellite image "in plain sight"
That from what I have seen has always been from the perspective of an individual's position to what they can see around them not overhead by a machine.
The thing is, a fence does not present one a reasonable assumption of privacy from individuals in high places. A person in a house near by on the second floor can see in, helicopters can see in, repair man working on a telephone pole can see, a person working on the roof of your neighbor can see in, hell for some fences a tall person can see in.
This is different then FLIR as it is giving someone a view inside your house, somewhere you have a reasonable expectation of privacy with regards to views through the wall. A phone tap is letting someone listen into something through an extra piece of equipment to hear something that is believed to have an expectation of privacy.
If you're talking about illegal activity on your cell phone and a cop hears it, or you're playing it on speaker phone, they don't need a warrant to act becuase you're expectation of privacy is negligable because people doing no investigation of any kind of could reasonable be able to do the same thing as the cops. Likewise, you have no reasonable expectation to privacy in your fence because its routinely possible for people to be able to see over it.
I think you're off base trying to compare this to items that allow you to get a view of sorts inside walls, or something allowing you to ease drop on a private conversation.
RIVERHEAD, N.Y. - A town on New York's Long Island is using Google Earth to find backyard pools that don't have the proper permits.
The town of Riverhead has used the satellite image service to find about 250 pools whose owners never filled out the required paperwork.
Violators were told to get the permits or face hefty fines. So far about $75,000 in fees has been collected.
Riverhead's chief building inspector Leroy Barnes Jr. said the unpermitted pools were a safety concern. He said that without the required inspections there was no way to know whether the pools' plumbing, electrical work and fencing met state and local regulations.
Google Earth Used To Find Unlicensed Pools
Paging big brother......
well, the broke the law and got caught. too bad for them.
So playing Devil's advocate you would be ok if tax evaluators could leapfrog your fence to see what you have in the back yard in an effort to increase the taxes on your property?
The thing is, a fence does not present one a reasonable assumption of privacy from individuals in high places. A person in a house near by on the second floor can see in, helicopters can see in, repair man working on a telephone pole can see, a person working on the roof of your neighbor can see in, hell for some fences a tall person can see in.
This is different then FLIR as it is giving someone a view inside your house, somewhere you have a reasonable expectation of privacy with regards to views through the wall. A phone tap is letting someone listen into something through an extra piece of equipment to hear something that is believed to have an expectation of privacy.
If you're talking about illegal activity on your cell phone and a cop hears it, or you're playing it on speaker phone, they don't need a warrant to act becuase you're expectation of privacy is negligable because people doing no investigation of any kind of could reasonable be able to do the same thing as the cops. Likewise, you have no reasonable expectation to privacy in your fence because its routinely possible for people to be able to see over it.
I think you're off base trying to compare this to items that allow you to get a view of sorts inside walls, or something allowing you to ease drop on a private conversation.
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