Good piece on immigration from Stossel and the guy who runs the Rand Institute

[aociswundumho]

They're getting a lot of hate in the comments, but that's to be expected in the Trump era:

 

[Hari Seldon]

The rand institute. I got mine, **** you!

 

[Bok Tuklo]

The rand institute. I got mine, **** you!

People who think we need to give Hobbes’ state of nature another shot.

 

[j brown's body]

Most Americans also support a path to legality and citizenship.

Which is clearly more effective, more humane and efficient.

Unless, of course, you prefer a society where the authorities are forever nosing around in everyone's business.

Not a position one would expect a right-wing libertarian to take.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Some rando on youtube. WOW, I am impressed!!

 

[Fletch]

They're getting a lot of hate in the comments, but that's to be expected in the Trump era:

Yaron Brook is looking at this purely ideologically. He says things in that clip like, 'dont stop immigration, stop the goodies.' That latter part is never going to happen

 

[Slartibartfast]

Pass.

 

[aociswundumho]

The rand institute. I got mine, **** you!

Tell me, what percentage of your time and money do you voluntarily give to strangers?

After you provide those numbers, we'll see how close you are to "I got mine, **** you!"

 

[Hari Seldon]

Tell me, what percentage of your time and money do you voluntarily give to strangers?

After you provide those numbers, we'll see how close you are to "I got mine, **** you!"

Love those Randists. Smoking it turns out is really bad for your health. Especially when those fine companies that produce cigarettes made them as addictive as possible while lying about the consequences. Love those Randists.

 

[aociswundumho]

Love those Randists. Smoking it turns out is really bad for your health. Especially when those fine companies that produce cigarettes made them as addictive as possible while lying about the consequences. Love those Randists.

Oops, looks like you forgot to answer the question. The point of the question is to determine how different you are from a "I got mine, **** you!" randroid which you strongly disapprove of. Here you go:

What percentage of your time and money do you voluntarily give to strangers?

 

[Hari Seldon]

Oops, looks like you forgot to answer the question. The point of the question is to determine how different you are from a "I got mine, **** you!" randroid which you strongly disapprove of. Here you go:

What percentage of your time and money do you voluntarily give to strangers?

Nope, my answer stands. Go protest against building codes and safety regulations.

 

[aociswundumho]

Nope, my answer stands.

Yes, your answer does stand, and it's "I got mine, **** you!"

 

[Hari Seldon]

Yes, your answer does stand, and it's "I got mine, **** you!"

Spoken like a true randist.

 

[Questerr]

They're getting a lot of hate in the comments, but that's to be expected in the Trump era:

Aociswundumbho: “I hate governments and they shouldn’t exist.”

Also Aociswundumbho: “I support the enforcement of borders and the deportation of people to slave labor prisons where torture regularly happens for the crime of crossing a line on a map.”

 

[aociswundumho]

Also Aociswundumbho: “I support the enforcement of borders and the deportation of people to slave labor prisons where torture regularly happens for the crime of crossing a line on a map.”

I've always supported open borders, and have said so on this forum many times.

 

[aociswundumho]

Aociswundumbho: “I hate governments and they shouldn’t exist.”

Governments exist because it's profitable to rule over people. They will not exist when that is no longer the case.

 

[Questerr]

I've always supported open borders, and have said so on this forum many times.

Yet you come out swinging in defense of Trump in multiple threads even though he supports fascist measures for the border.

 

[Questerr]

Governments exist because it's profitable to rule over people. They will not exist when that is no longer the case.

So you support the elimination of the rich, yes?

Because so long as rich people rely on hierarchies for their wealth, it will be profitable for them to rule over people and they will either support governments or establish their own in a form of neo-feudalism.

 

[aociswundumho]

Yet you come out swinging in defense of Trump in multiple threads

Not defending Trump, but defending what is actually true.

even though he supports fascist measures for the border.

The countries with the strictest border controls are far left.

 

[aociswundumho]

So you support the elimination of the rich, yes?

No, I don't support murdering people because they have more money than I do.

Because so long as rich people rely on hierarchies for their wealth, it will be profitable for them to rule over people and they will either support governments or establish their own in a form of neo-feudalism.

If you say so.

 

[Questerr]

Not defending Trump, but defending what is actually true.



The countries with the strictest border controls are far left.

The countries with the strictest border controls are all authoritarian.

If they were instead places where a single landowner claimed ownership over the land, you would fight to death to defend their “right” to their strict border controls.

 

[Questerr]

No, I don't support murdering people because they have more money than I do.



If you say so.

You think the rich are just going to give up the system that supports their wealth and that they manipulate to enhance their profits?

 

[medi]

Governments exist because it's profitable to rule over people. They will not exist when that is no longer the case.

“Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” ― George Washington

 

[medi]

The countries with the strictest border controls are all authoritarian.

Do you view the ROK and/or Japan as authoritarian?

On the other hand, you may not know how strict the governments in those two nations are about such matters as you were focused on in that which I quoted.

 

[aociswundumho]

The countries with the strictest border controls are all authoritarian.

Yes, as I said, they are far left.