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It's tough trying to figure out what exactly is happening within the gop concerning mr. trump. While many republicans say they will not vote for trump again, he's leading the pack of gop hopefuls by large numbers. With his recent town halls and especially those on fox, the numbers tell a different story concerning how many people watched, they are consistently going down. So, one group of numbers say he is the apparent favorite to win the nomination while another set of numbers say he is losing ground. It's no wonder the gop is so confused.

Trump's latest "town hall" appearance on Fox News Thursday averaged only 2.78 million viewers, down more than half a million viewers from a similar appearance on cable-news rival CNN three weeks earlier.

According to Nielsen figures reported by Mediaite, the Fox News town hall, moderated by Sean Hannity, averaged 320,000 viewers in the core 25-54 demo -- less than half of the 781,000 demo viewers averaged for the May 10 CNN primetime event.

The former president has been steadily trending downward over the years.

As Mediaite noted, Trump's previous six town hall events on Fox News delivered respective audiences of 5.1 million, 4.4 million, 4.2 million, 3.8 million, 3.5 million and 3.2 million viewers.
 
I don't think the polls reflect anything of importance especially this many months out. I would assert that the GOP will not move off of Trump unless and until they see enough of Trump in one or more of the other contenders. So far, nobody has clicked and nobody has looked like they will click.

Too bad the GOP is so into White Nationalism. Scott who I agree with not at all is likely the best candidate they have.
 
bongsaway said:
It's tough trying to figure out what exactly is happening within the gop concerning mr. trump. While many republicans say they will not vote for trump again, he's leading the pack of gop hopefuls by large numbers. With his recent town halls and especially those on fox, the numbers tell a different story concerning how many people watched, they are consistently going down. So, one group of numbers say he is the apparent favorite to win the nomination while another set of numbers say he is losing ground. It's no wonder the gop is so confused.

Trump's latest "town hall" appearance on Fox News Thursday averaged only 2.78 million viewers, down more than half a million viewers from a similar appearance on cable-news rival CNN three weeks earlier.

According to Nielsen figures reported by Mediaite, the Fox News town hall, moderated by Sean Hannity, averaged 320,000 viewers in the core 25-54 demo -- less than half of the 781,000 demo viewers averaged for the May 10 CNN primetime event.

The former president has been steadily trending downward over the years.

As Mediaite noted, Trump's previous six town hall events on Fox News delivered respective audiences of 5.1 million, 4.4 million, 4.2 million, 3.8 million, 3.5 million and 3.2 million viewers.
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We are still months away from a normal primary season and the more lesser MAGATS that keep jumping into the ring the better for KING MAGAT. If the lesser MAGATS play it soft on KING MAGAT they will never lay a knock out punch. If they try to out do KING MAGAT with their own MAGATRY they will fail as well. No one does it better. KING MAGAT will love chewing up the field on his way to once more taking the GOP nomination. Despite what any early polling indicates.
 
bongsaway said:
It's tough trying to figure out what exactly is happening within the gop concerning mr. trump. While many republicans say they will not vote for trump again, he's leading the pack of gop hopefuls by large numbers. With his recent town halls and especially those on fox, the numbers tell a different story concerning how many people watched, they are consistently going down. So, one group of numbers say he is the apparent favorite to win the nomination while another set of numbers say he is losing ground. It's no wonder the gop is so confused.

Trump's latest "town hall" appearance on Fox News Thursday averaged only 2.78 million viewers, down more than half a million viewers from a similar appearance on cable-news rival CNN three weeks earlier.

According to Nielsen figures reported by Mediaite, the Fox News town hall, moderated by Sean Hannity, averaged 320,000 viewers in the core 25-54 demo -- less than half of the 781,000 demo viewers averaged for the May 10 CNN primetime event.

The former president has been steadily trending downward over the years.

As Mediaite noted, Trump's previous six town hall events on Fox News delivered respective audiences of 5.1 million, 4.4 million, 4.2 million, 3.8 million, 3.5 million and 3.2 million viewers.
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2/3 of independent voters don't want him.

1/3 of Republican voters don't want him.

He's toast.
 
I definitely see the tide turning and have for a while now. Not sure if it's being fed up with the drama, the pending legal woes, the continual whining, the continued losing and/or his age but Fox has been off him and his fans here, while being careful not to say too much that is negative, are moving towards DeSantis. the Iowa voters I saw interviewed sure seemed smitten with DeSantis. I think it highly likely DeSantis wins the primaries which, given his extreme right policies, is a blessing to Dems. Both Trump and DeSantis in my mind are beatable.... a moderate conservative could likely deliver them all three chambers but they are too blinded by their media influences to see that.
 
What does it say about the 2.78 million viewers who still think he is worthwhile? The number was significantly lower than the CNN rating, which could be explained by Fox viewers not wanting for an increase in CNN ratings, but that is still giving TFG too much attention, something he thrives on.
Why is he still given a platform? Why isn't he reduced to bleeping from his own failing ivory tower?
 
RetiredUSN said:
2/3 of independent voters don't want him.

1/3 of Republican voters don't want him.

He's toast.
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Most likely 1/2 at least of independent voters and 3/3 of Republican voters will all take him when he inevitably becomes the GOP nominee.
 
The conflict between Trumps shrinking rating and him still leading the GOP race is simply because the crazies still see him as the best of an awful bunch of candidates. That alone is a scary thought.
 
Callen said:
I definitely see the tide turning and have for a while now. Not sure if it's being fed up with the drama, the pending legal woes, the continual whining, the continued losing and/or his age but Fox has been off him and his fans here, while being careful not to say too much that is negative, are moving towards DeSantis. the Iowa voters I saw interviewed sure seemed smitten with DeSantis. I think it highly likely DeSantis wins the primaries which, given his extreme right policies, is a blessing to Dems. Both Trump and DeSantis in my mind are beatable.... a moderate conservative could likely deliver them all three chambers but they are too blinded by their media influences to see that.
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and weren't you the same person who said that Trump would NEVER be in the Oval Office? Just say'n...
 
Ishm said:
The conflict between Trumps shrinking rating and him still leading the GOP race is simply because the crazies still see him as the best of an awful bunch of candidates. That alone is a scary thought.
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Many of us think there are a great bunch of candidates lining up.
 
The polls don't necessarily reflect all of the BOGUS GOP only those who participated .......and Trump and some
of the lawyers are coming up as people of interest regarding Jan 6th and the Mara Lago Files.

Until the many bogus republican names are announced as those awarded Federal Grand Jury Indictments who
knows who will be able to run. That could change things dramatically.

And it is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy early regarding a campaign season. Where is all of the dirty money coming from?
 
Queen Margo said:
Many of us think there are a great bunch of candidates lining up.
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Is Sununu getting in? Larry Hogan has already declined. Would you vote for either of them? What if Colin Powell or Condoleezza Rice were still in their prime? Would you vote for either?

To me, a candidate must be law and order, therefore, must be anti-Trump.
 
bongsaway said:
It's tough trying to figure out what exactly is happening within the gop concerning mr. trump. While many republicans say they will not vote for trump again, he's leading the pack of gop hopefuls by large numbers. With his recent town halls and especially those on fox, the numbers tell a different story concerning how many people watched, they are consistently going down. So, one group of numbers say he is the apparent favorite to win the nomination while another set of numbers say he is losing ground. It's no wonder the gop is so confused.

Trump's latest "town hall" appearance on Fox News Thursday averaged only 2.78 million viewers, down more than half a million viewers from a similar appearance on cable-news rival CNN three weeks earlier.

According to Nielsen figures reported by Mediaite, the Fox News town hall, moderated by Sean Hannity, averaged 320,000 viewers in the core 25-54 demo -- less than half of the 781,000 demo viewers averaged for the May 10 CNN primetime event.

The former president has been steadily trending downward over the years.

As Mediaite noted, Trump's previous six town hall events on Fox News delivered respective audiences of 5.1 million, 4.4 million, 4.2 million, 3.8 million, 3.5 million and 3.2 million viewers.
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i said well over 12 months ago, he is NOT going to be the GOP nominee

But you keep him in the threads day after day after day

Most of the threads on here about Trump are created by just a few posters....you are one of them

He will have a say about who does get the nomination....that will be his role.....nothing more
 
bongsaway said:
It's tough trying to figure out what exactly is happening within the gop concerning mr. trump. While many republicans say they will not vote for trump again, he's leading the pack of gop hopefuls by large numbers. With his recent town halls and especially those on fox, the numbers tell a different story concerning how many people watched, they are consistently going down. So, one group of numbers say he is the apparent favorite to win the nomination while another set of numbers say he is losing ground. It's no wonder the gop is so confused.

Trump's latest "town hall" appearance on Fox News Thursday averaged only 2.78 million viewers, down more than half a million viewers from a similar appearance on cable-news rival CNN three weeks earlier.

According to Nielsen figures reported by Mediaite, the Fox News town hall, moderated by Sean Hannity, averaged 320,000 viewers in the core 25-54 demo -- less than half of the 781,000 demo viewers averaged for the May 10 CNN primetime event.

The former president has been steadily trending downward over the years.

As Mediaite noted, Trump's previous six town hall events on Fox News delivered respective audiences of 5.1 million, 4.4 million, 4.2 million, 3.8 million, 3.5 million and 3.2 million viewers.
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This doesn't indicate people won't vote for Trump. They just aren't interested in his stale rhetoric.

And as far as the FOX News "town hall" is concerned, it was nothing more than an infomercial for the GOP frontrunner.

First, the live audience was pre-screened to include only pro-Trump voters.

Second, the audience was required to submit their questions in writing and in advance. This means that at least Hannity knew in advance what questions would be asked and answered. The Trump camp also likely got to see to questions in advance and pick which ones they wanted on-air.

Third, by only allowing Hannity to read the audience questions, they avoided the risk of an audience member going off-script with a microphone.

Fourth, the event was not broadcast live. It was taped and broadcast later, allowing FNC editors to remove anything that Trump might say that would put FNC at risk of libel. There was no mention of the recent civil trial in which Trump has been ordered to pay $5 million to a woman who claims Trump raped her. There were no questions or mentions of the ongoing investigation in Georgia. In fact, there was none of the usual 'the 2020 election was stolen' noise we have come to expect from Trump. Apparently, FNC is not interested in revisiting the issue that just got a 3/4 billion dollar settlement against them.

Even Trumpsters get bored with such a contrived format.
 
DeSantis, the acknowledged #2 contender for the nomination is still sidestepping any opportunity to voice a direct criticism of Trump. Offered a softball question pitched right down the middle regarding Trump praising KJU, Ronnie totally sidestepped the question and went right to an attack on KJU.

You cannot tell me that Republicans are not noticing that even after having formally announced his candidacy, Ronnie is still avoiding taking on Trump directly. Ronnie is still trying to sidle his way to the nomination. Simply not going to work and I don't see how any of the other "candidates" can get there since they act more like cannon fodder than candidates.

Pence has been more forceful than any of them but he just does not have a path.
 
This was such an entertaining series of comments to read. Watching the gradual goal post shifts from the left, over time and about the right - is great.

Reading along, something kept coming to my mind (which I'll get to in the next paragraph). But it's on my mind because the Republicans now have a big field of choices and many good ones. As a conservative, I'm excited to see the primary season get underway - the ambitious campaigning, the soon to start debates, all the interested candidates entering, etc. I like how this process is beginning to demonstrate similarities and differences between the candidates, and those opportunities to learn about and see differences will only increase over upcoming months. This is both fun and good! I remember so many thinking no one would enter the race because Trump supposedly had such a hold on the party and DeSantis (and others) wouldn't dare get in. Well, here we are!

So, what keeps popping into my mind, as I read these comments, is the predicament all this GOP action puts the Dems in. Joe Biden, Dems? Is he the final answer? Are you (honestly and logically) comfortable holding onto that final answer?
 
gbg3 said:
This was such an entertaining series of comments to read. Watching the gradual goal post shifts from the left, over time and about the right - is great.

Reading along, something kept coming to my mind (which I'll get to in the next paragraph). But it's on my mind because the Republicans now have a big field of choices and many good ones. As a conservative, I'm excited to see the primary season get underway - the ambitious campaigning, the soon to start debates, all the interested candidates entering, etc. I like how this process is beginning to demonstrate similarities and differences between the candidates, and those opportunities to learn about and see differences will only increase over upcoming months. This is both fun and good! I remember so many thinking no one would enter the race because Trump supposedly had such a hold on the party and DeSantis (and others) wouldn't dare get in. Well, here we are!

So, what keeps popping into my mind, as I read these comments, is the predicament all this GOP action puts the Dems in. Joe Biden, Dems? Is he the final answer? Are you (honestly and logically) comfortable holding onto that final answer?
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Really? Christie has no shot. Yet he is going to announce simply as a debate ringer able it is assumed to take on Donnie because Chrisiti is not a serious contender and because nobody else will or can. Hell of a field ya' got there.
 
jnug said:
Too bad the GOP is so into White Nationalism. Scott who I agree with not at all is likely the best candidate they have
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Do you wonder if Joe will tell us Tim Scott "ain't Black"?
 
LouC said:
Most likely 1/2 at least of independent voters and 3/3 of Republican voters will all take him when he inevitably becomes the GOP nominee.
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This is the real calculus, so it's up to GOP voters and those independents who lean right to act in the primaries if they really don't want Trump. The question in that contest is whether DeSantis (or anyone else) can make themselves into the kind of candidate the GOP voting base would see as a suitable replacement for the former president. I don't think it will be hard for more centrist Republicans to see DeSantis that way, but the loyal Trump base is another story, because they give off "I will go down with the ship" vibes.
 
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