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GM to shut down Hummer


Yep and some people think as long as the got 4 wheel drive they can go as fast as they want, no matter the conditions. They usually find out the hard way, they can't.
 
Yep and some people think as long as the got 4 wheel drive they can go as fast as they want, no matter the conditions. They usually find out the hard way, they can't.

You should live in the south like I do now, and see how people drive when it snows.
 
You should live in the south like I do now, and see how people drive when it snows.

We brag about how we can handle the weather up here, but every storm there are hundreds of cars in the ditch. Some people just never learn. It's just like those idiots that get their cars towed for parking on the street during a snow emergency. They never learn either.
 

I agree with your post, with exception to what I bolded.

The more oil we burn, the more expensive it's going to get for everyone. I cringe at people who complain about gas prices yet live in the sticks, and drive their big-assed Yukons to and from work, often being the single drive. So what other people decide to drive affects my bottom line.
 
Actually, if the Dems hadn't sabotaged the economy, made it where no one has any money and nationalized GM, the line wouldn't have gotten canceled.

So, no, the market didn't say jack.

The market said, nah piece of s**t, I'll buy a Prius.
 
Musta notta been much snow, then.

So when were y'all in S.La snowed in last? And how many times in 10 years? If a Canadian doesn't need an SUV, how would a Cajun?
 

They pay for the additional resource through their increased useage of gasoline. Its not as if they are getting away with anything. Gasoline supply is artifically controlled anyway. People's driving of SUVs really don't have that big of an impact on gasoline prices. Its actually the actual miles driven that affect gasoline useage rather than MPG. Someone who commutes 55 miles one way to school in a subaru outback consumes more product than a Hummer driver who commutes 10 miles to work. A gas station doesn't differentiate between a car that gets 30mpg or 20 mpg. It charges the same per gallon pumped.

Anyway, the price of gas seems more tied to geo-political affairs and economic inflation than SUV useage. Our gas was over $4 a gallon during the housing boom, and now in the recession it has been as low as $2.30 and right now is about $2.75. Its not because people quit driving SUVs all the sudden. There are plenty out there yet.
 
Right,



driving a two wheel drive around in 6 inche of snow, is not the safest thing to do.... :shrug:

So don't drive on the what? 4 days a year the snow is so deep the ploughs and gritters can't get through.

You complain at $4 a gallon? That's 40% cheaper than standard EU prices. That has nothing to do with the relative price of the commodity and everything to do with the untouchable status of fuel tax in the US and Canada. If the government is too timid to tax gas to encourage people to buy more fuel-efficient cars ( I'm talking 40-50 MPG, not 25-30) then there's no hope that the US and Canada will bring down their CO2, greenhouse emissions.
 
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Unlike yourself, I believe that supply and demand plays a bigger role than you think. Much bigger. Sure, there is artifical pricing, but it's minute from what I know. Oil is a finite resource, and our world usage is growing all of the time. There's a good possibility that we have reached peak oil by now, and what we were paying a few years back will see like chump change in the near future.


Peak Oil, Matt Savinar, Life After the Oil Crash
 

To my suprise US oil demand has dropped by around 500 000 bpd during this recession. I think a lot of Americans have reduced their driving
 
GM was looking to sell Hummer before the government bailout

It was a failing brand which was no llonger selling well
Who the hell wants to buy a loser company from a loser company?
 
Who the hell wants to buy a loser company from a loser company?

A chinese company was thinking about it untill the Chinese gove shut the idea down
 
So when were y'all in S.La snowed in last? And how many times in 10 years? If a Canadian doesn't need an SUV, how would a Cajun?

Ever heard of mud and sand??
 

Ahh, so not only should you get to decide what people can drive, but also where they can live. Not everyone likes to live in the middle of a stinking big city.
 
Last storm I took my wife to work and in the 15 mile stretch there were 6 vehicles in the ditch, all but one were 4wd. One guy in an Explorer had passed me and a few miles down the road, there he was spun out in the ditch.
The reason the ditch wasn't filled with Priuses, Hyundais, and Beetles was because they didn't make it out on the road to begin with.
 
The reason the ditch wasn't filled with Priuses, Hyundais, and Beetles was because they didn't make it out on the road to begin with.

Nope.
We had the same problem here a couple of weeks back. All of the cars ditched here were BMWs, Mercs, the odd Honda. They all had one characteristic. high torque, rear wheel, and driven by muppets.
The traction control never even kicked in on my diesel Passat.
 
Hey MG



14 inches of heavy tree downing snow and ice here....


Drove 20 miles in my jacked up ford, Didn't see any priuses....


Saw one toyota camry, but it was stuck. :ssst:
 
Hey MG



14 inches of heavy tree downing snow and ice here....


Drove 20 miles in my jacked up ford, Didn't see any priuses....


Saw one toyota camry, but it was stuck. :ssst:

Hey! I thought the problem with Toyotas was getting them to stop....
 
Ahh, so not only should you get to decide what people can drive, but also where they can live. Not everyone likes to live in the middle of a stinking big city.

Then drive something more efficient. Or car pool. Funny thing, when the price of gas was so high, people here were doing that big-time.

Bottom line, the decisions that other people make affects my bottom line when it comes to gas prices.
 
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