Global Warming caused by Orcas?

[Gordy327]

Then the cause of warming is the Orcas.


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Nope. Orcas are not heating the ice. So they cannot be the cause.

 

[Bodi]

Nope. Orcas are not heating the ice. So they cannot be the cause.

The argument was NEVER that orcas were heating the ice. If that is your understanding then you are seriously off track.


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[Gordy327]

The argument was NEVER that orcas were heating the ice. If that is your understanding then you are seriously off track.


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You just said, "Then the cause of warming is the Orcas." Orcas are not causing global warming either. The entire premise/argument of the article is not just off track, it's off the rails!

 

[Bodi]

You just said, "Then the cause of warming is the Orcas." Orcas are not causing global warming either. The entire premise/argument of the article is not just off track, it's off the rails!

Correct. The cause of (global) warming would be the Orcas... breaking up the ice. Other factors warm and melt the ice. Looks like you misunderstood.

 

[Gordy327]

Correct. The cause of (global) warming would be the Orcas... breaking up the ice. Other factors warm and melt the ice. Looks like you misunderstood.

Breaking ice by itself doesn't cause warming. Ice is broken by the kinetic impact from the orcas. Ice can also break off if there is enough melting underneath. It & they do not warm anything. Other factors are melting the ice. The misunderstanding here is certainly not mine.

 

[Bodi]

Breaking ice by itself doesn't cause warming. Ice is broken by the kinetic impact from the orcas. Ice can also break off if there is enough melting underneath. It & they do not warm anything. Other factors are melting the ice. The misunderstanding here is certainly not mine.

Actually, it is. At least as framed in this argument. The Orcas break the ice and that leads to more surface area to be warmed and weathered. What melts faster, one huge ice cube in a class with liquid are lots of little pieces of shredded ice? Ask any bartender. It is pretty obvious. It is the Orcas breaking up the ice... not the Orcas warming the ice.

 

[Gordy327]

Actually, it is. At least as framed in this argument. The Orcas break the ice and that leads to more surface area to be warmed and weathered. What melts faster, one huge ice cube in a class with liquid are lots of little pieces of shredded ice? Ask any bartender. It is pretty obvious. It is the Orcas breaking up the ice... not the Orcas warming the ice.

The question is not if Orcas are breaking ice. The question is if global warming is caused by Orcas. It is not. Neither is there any scientific study or experiment demonstrating otherwise.

 

[Bodi]

The question is not if Orcas are breaking ice. The question is if global warming is caused by Orcas. It is not.

No. Wrong. My question was, are Orcas causing Global Warming by breaking up the ice.

Neither is there any scientific study or experiment demonstrating otherwise.

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[Lord of Planar]

They keep breaking up the ice, which melts into the ocean, so that they can kill seals. Should this be allowed?

LOL...

They have been doing that for all of their known time.

What is new in the last century, is large ships and submarines that break the ice. Then there is soot on ice also, decreasing the albedo.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Ice requires the absorption of thermal energy to melt. Simply breaking ice doesn't cause ice to melt. It only makes the ice into smaller pieces. If ice is melting, it's because it's too warm to remain solid.

The exposed water however absorbs the sunlight rather than reflecting it and warms the water and ice.

 

[Bodi]

LOL...

They have been doing that for all of their known time.

What is new in the last century, is large ships and submarines that break the ice. Then there is soot on ice also, decreasing the albedo.

When was the first known Orca Tactic like that observed?


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