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Getting rid of those evil illegal aliens is a really great idea...

Until you recognize the net effects of doing so.

4 ways Trump’s mass deportation plans could hurt your finances

What will the net effect be when those evil illegal aliens...you know, the ones that have been murdering, raping, etc...are deported. Your article isn't clear on that, though they do say there are 1.2 million of them.

In any case, if all 10+ million illegal aliens that the Biden pukes let into our country were removed, what is the worst that'll happen? Things will go back to the way it was BEFORE the Biden puke's actions...that is, it'll go back to low unemployment, low inflation, low CPI and good GDP.

Is that REALLY a bad thing?
 
The economics of that deportation is going to be a huge shock of MAGA xenophobes.

Do immigrants contribute to U.S. economic growth?​





Yes. According to an American Immigration Council analysis of U.S. Census Bureau data, immigrants—almost 48 million of whom now live in the United States among an overall population of roughly 335 million people—generated some $1.6 trillion in economic activity in 2022, the most recent year for which such data is available. They also contributed more than $579 billion in local, state, and federal taxes. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates [PDF] that increased immigration could reduce the U.S. federal budget deficit by some $897 billion over the next decade.





The role of undocumented immigration remains controversial. Undocumented immigrants’ spending power totaled more than $254 billion in 2022, and undocumented households had a combined income of $330 billion—paying nearly $76 billion in taxes. Still, immigration restrictionists argue that undocumented immigrants in particular are a net drain, particularly on state and local budgets. Others, including vice-presidential candidate, Senator JD Vance (R-OH), say immigration is contributing to soaring housing costs and exacerbating the affordability crisis. However, although some researchers have found that migrant inflows lead to increased housing demand, others argue that housing shortages, zoning laws, and shifting housing preferences play a larger role.
 
MAGAs shot themselves in the face. And their own kids/families.

Idiots.
 
What will the net effect be when those evil illegal aliens...you know, the ones that have been murdering, raping, etc...are deported. Your article isn't clear on that, though they do say there are 1.2 million of them.

In any case, if all 10+ million illegal aliens that the Biden pukes let into our country were removed, what is the worst that'll happen? Things will go back to the way it was BEFORE the Biden puke's actions...that is, it'll go back to low unemployment, low inflation, low CPI and good GDP.

Is that REALLY a bad thing?
And you think things are expensive now. Deport 10-20 million and enjoy the magic you wished for.
 
What will the net effect be when those evil illegal aliens...you know, the ones that have been murdering, raping, etc...are deported. Your article isn't clear on that, though they do say there are 1.2 million of them.

In any case, if all 10+ million illegal aliens that the Biden pukes let into our country were removed, what is the worst that'll happen? Things will go back to the way it was BEFORE the Biden puke's actions...that is, it'll go back to low unemployment, low inflation, low CPI and good GDP.

Is that REALLY a bad thing?
The first people he is targeting aren't those with criminal records.
 
What will the net effect be when those evil illegal aliens...you know, the ones that have been murdering, raping, etc...are deported. Your article isn't clear on that, though they do say there are 1.2 million of them.

Immigrants commit less crime than native citizens by half. If you want to lower the crime rate we should deport MAGAs.

September 12, 2024

An NIJ-funded study examining data from the Texas Department of Public Safety estimated the rate at which undocumented immigrants are arrested for committing crimes. The study found that undocumented immigrants are arrested at less than half the rate of native-born U.S. citizens for violent and drug crimes and a quarter the rate of native-born citizens for property crimes.[1]
The question of how often undocumented immigrants commit crimes is not easy to answer. Most previous research on crime commission by immigrant populations has been unable to differentiate undocumented immigrants from documented immigrants. As a result, most studies treat all immigrants as a uniform group, regardless of whether they are in the country legally.
In any case, if all 10+ million illegal aliens that the Biden pukes let into our country were removed, what is the worst that'll happen? Things will go back to the way it was BEFORE the Biden puke's actions...that is, it'll go back to low unemployment, low inflation, low CPI and good GDP.

Is that REALLY a bad thing?
Facts differ but this has never been about economics or crime. Its about xenophobia and the racist White Replacement Theory. Conservatives have always been opposed to immigration because of their bigotry of others.

And yet somehow they claim to be Christians. Jesus wasn't a xenophobe. Conservative christians love to quote Leviticus to defend their bigotry of LGBT, but somehow they never quote this passage.

Leviticus 19:33-34​


33 “‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.

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What will the net effect be when those evil illegal aliens...you know, the ones that have been murdering, raping, etc...are deported. Your article isn't clear on that, though they do say there are 1.2 million of them.

In any case, if all 10+ million illegal aliens that the Biden pukes let into our country were removed, what is the worst that'll happen? Things will go back to the way it was BEFORE the Biden puke's actions...that is, it'll go back to low unemployment, low inflation, low CPI and good GDP.

Is that REALLY a bad thing?
Course what you don't admit is most of those 1.2 million are in prison, or the conviction is minor- not rapists, drug dealers or murderers.... :rolleyes:
Now 11 million is less than a fraction of a percent of the USofA population.
We have low unemployment, inflation is back down, GDP is 3% according to the BEA, but don't count on a low CPI. Pushing out undocumented workers for 'real' 'Mericans has been tried before and failed. 'Real' 'Mericans won't work in the conditions, for the pay that helps keep the CPI low. tRump's goon squads tried that in the meat processing plants and, in a few months the 'real' workers left and quietly the undocumented came back.
Sad fact is we need those undocumented workers to keep prices low and do the dirty, back breaking jobs we don't want to do... :unsure:
Make the pay enough to keep 'Mericans in the plants and the cost of food rises. Create conditions where the softer real workers will stay and the cost of food rises. Course it will be a real hoot if what can be shipped south of the border is and then brought back in- no work for the 'reals'.... ✌️
 
Course what you don't admit is most of those 1.2 million are in prison, or the conviction is minor- not rapists, drug dealers or murderers.... :rolleyes:
Don't care. They are criminals. Get them the **** out of our country.

Now 11 million is less than a fraction of a percent of the USofA population.
So what? They are 11 million people who don't belong here and who never should have been allowed to be here.

We have low unemployment, inflation is back down, GDP is 3% according to the BEA, but don't count on a low CPI. Pushing out undocumented workers for 'real' 'Mericans has been tried before and failed. 'Real' 'Mericans won't work in the conditions, for the pay that helps keep the CPI low. tRump's goon squads tried that in the meat processing plants and, in a few months the 'real' workers left and quietly the undocumented came back.
Again, so what? None of that is a good reason to let 10+ million criminals...and illegal aliens are, by definition, criminals...stay in our country.

Sad fact is we need those undocumented workers to keep prices low and do the dirty, back breaking jobs we don't want to do... :unsure:
We didn't need them before the Biden pukes let them in. We don't need them now.

Make the pay enough to keep 'Mericans in the plants and the cost of food rises. Create conditions where the softer real workers will stay and the cost of food rises. Course it will be a real hoot if what can be shipped south of the border is and then brought back in- no work for the 'reals'.... ✌️
Quit whining. We don't need illegal aliens...especially 10+ million of them.
 
He's already set 'no price tag' on deporting immigrants. My fear is he uses the military and national guard to round people up.

oh definitely...the man has huge penis envy...he will bring out his penis extenders...AKA United States Military!
 
Until you recognize the net effects of doing so.
I am sure that you have disinformation along those lines.

4 ways Trump’s mass deportation plans could hurt your finances
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/11/business/deportation-immigration-trump-cost-americans
You can start with this

That’s because immigrants – including people who are in America illegally – support the job market, keep inflation in check and add to the federal coffers.​
This is wrong on several levels
  1. Legal immigrants are not in the discussion.
  2. Saying that they support the job market is backward
  3. Keeping inflation in check is a weird statement
  4. Only those paying taxes add to the federal coffers
You cannot speak intelligently on the subject unless you distinguish between legal immigrants and illegal immigrants.
 
Of course, it is. He's said so many times.
Nope, he laid it out..the first people he is targeting are those with an open deportation order or that did not show up for court...the first people are not those with criminal records. I would agree that people with criminal records (felonies) should be deported...
 
Nope, he laid it out..the first people he is targeting are those with an open deportation order or that did not show up for court...the first people are not those with criminal records. I would agree that people with criminal records (felonies) should be deported...
This is what he said...

Mass deportations
"On day one, I will launch the largest deportation program of criminals in American history," Trump declared during a recent rally in Reading, Pa. "We're going to get them out.”​
 
Don't care. They are criminals. Get them the **** out of our country. So what? They are 11 million people who don't belong here and who never should have been allowed to be here.
Again, so what? None of that is a good reason to let 10+ million criminals...and illegal aliens are, by definition, criminals...stay in our country. We didn't need them before the Biden pukes let them in. We don't need them now. Quit whining. We don't need illegal aliens...especially 10+ million of them.
Laffin, no one is whining, you are ranting but that's about it for hyper emotional out pourings... :rolleyes:
It is interesting that for all the raids conducted by the INS in industries where undocumented workers are the backbone of productivity, soon after the raids the 'real' 'Mericans decided they didn't need that job that badly. Suddenly those industries had workers back on the job. I get the ignorant babble when facts are not in your favor, however I don't think the ardor displayed some will dampen when the MAGA pukes drive up the cost of everything from construction to produce, to meat and finally concrete and lawn maintenance. Demented Donny's wild attacks on immigrants and overseas industry (his Bible was printed in China at 3 dollars a pop) will only drive costs up and hit we the people in the pocketbook. His massive tariff will be dodged and the revenue stream he says will eliminating income tax will make all other administrations' debts seems paltry.... :unsure:
When more reasoned minds study the current scapegoating of a rather defenseless minority, 11 million out of 365 million, history shows us that is how an authoritarian demigod focuses hate. FYI Elon should be deported- he overstayed a student visa- he never attended- and instead went to work which violates federal law. Kick his criminal ass out!!!!! :ROFLMAO:
I'll wait for the answer- 'Are you better off today than you were in 2024?' ✌️
 
Laffin, no one is whining, you are ranting but that's about it for hyper emotional out pourings... :rolleyes:
It is interesting that for all the raids conducted by the INS in industries where undocumented workers are the backbone of productivity, soon after the raids the 'real' 'Mericans decided they didn't need that job that badly. Suddenly those industries had workers back on the job. I get the ignorant babble when facts are not in your favor, however I don't think the ardor displayed some will dampen when the MAGA pukes drive up the cost of everything from construction to produce, to meat and finally concrete and lawn maintenance. Demented Donny's wild attacks on immigrants and overseas industry (his Bible was printed in China at 3 dollars a pop) will only drive costs up and hit we the people in the pocketbook. His massive tariff will be dodged and the revenue stream he says will eliminating income tax will make all other administrations' debts seems paltry.... :unsure:
When more reasoned minds study the current scapegoating of a rather defenseless minority, 11 million out of 365 million, history shows us that is how an authoritarian demigod focuses hate. FYI Elon should be deported- he overstayed a student visa- he never attended- and instead went to work which violates federal law. Kick his criminal ass out!!!!! :ROFLMAO:
I'll wait for the answer- 'Are you better off today than you were in 2024?' ✌️
LOL!!

And you talk about a "rant"??

Bye.
 
I wouldn't worry too much

Those illegal immigrants are worth too much money for the rich and powerful. They won't allow that cheap labor to be removed. Sure there will be a big show to start with. But soon after it will quiet down and not much will be said about it.

Congress isn't going to fund 100's of billions of dollars to remove them.

Just like the wall. Sure there will be a lot of press as trump restarts his wall. But again, just like before and even when Bush was going to put up a fence, there will be no funding.
 
This is what he said...

Mass deportations
"On day one, I will launch the largest deportation program of criminals in American history," Trump declared during a recent rally in Reading, Pa. "We're going to get them out.”​
Where will Trump be going?
 
LOL!! And you talk about a "rant"?? Bye.
I get MAGAs struggle with complex thoughts and try to dismiss them. No ranting, just a series of facts the Fluffers of the Orange Convict hate to consider.
Will we be better in 4 years? I am looking forward to that answer.... ✌️
 
Oddly, somehow we managed not to have most of those problems before Biden allowed millions more into the country for no good reason.
Many service/food industries have a very good reason to keep undocumented labor which is why the Orange Guy really didn't try to remove the millions during his first watch. However, the case could be made for the Convict to drum up hate toward a rather tiny minority not really in a position to fight back for 'real' 'Mericans to blame for their problems.
Deport all those service workers and you'll see just how unable 'we' are to cope. The price of a myriad of consumer goods and services will skyrocket. It will be interesting to see if tRump actually follows through, or just claims to. I doubt the billionaires want their cheap source of labor sent away, and I don't think they will appreciate a tax cut in exchange for dry labor pool. No need for a tax cut if your business is struggling to put out a product the consumer can afford. Talk about whining over the inflation following Covid, this will be a hoot. Come on 2028... ✌️
 
Many service/food industries have a very good reason to keep undocumented labor which is why the Orange Guy really didn't try to remove the millions during his first watch. However, the case could be made for the Convict to drum up hate toward a rather tiny minority not really in a position to fight back for 'real' 'Mericans to blame for their problems.
Deport all those service workers and you'll see just how unable 'we' are to cope. The price of a myriad of consumer goods and services will skyrocket. It will be interesting to see if tRump actually follows through, or just claims to. I doubt the billionaires want their cheap source of labor sent away, and I don't think they will appreciate a tax cut in exchange for dry labor pool. No need for a tax cut if your business is struggling to put out a product the consumer can afford. Talk about whining over the inflation following Covid, this will be a hoot. Come on 2028... ✌️

There's no way he's going to deport all of them. If he can deport as many as were needlessly allowed to flood the border during Biden's reign, it will be a big win.
 
This is what he said...

Mass deportations
"On day one, I will launch the largest deportation program of criminals in American history," Trump declared during a recent rally in Reading, Pa. "We're going to get them out.”​
He wants to get rid of T and U visas as well as TPS. T and U visas are used for victims of crimes or people that assist police in some way (think witness protection). So, if a woman is raped, she no longer will be able to get protection from deportation and the defense attorney will promptly try to have her deported so that she cannot testify against her rapist... a child raped by a pedophile would be deported and the pedophile goes free....are you for that occurring?
 
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