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Get rid of SBR Law: Especially for Pistol Caliber

blackjack50

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We really need to push some more attempts to get rid of gun control laws. Personally? I would love to see the ban on SBR's gotten rid of. Especially for pistol calibers. A semi auto SMG would be an excellent home defense platform for someone living in an urban environment. Something along the lines of a PDW. More accurate than a handgun and so on. I don't understand why the NRA isn't on the offensive right now.


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blackjack50 said:
We really need to push some more attempts to get rid of gun control laws. Personally? I would love to see the ban on SBR's gotten rid of. Especially for pistol calibers. A semi auto SMG would be an excellent home defense platform for someone living in an urban environment. Something along the lines of a PDW. More accurate than a handgun and so on. I don't understand why the NRA isn't on the offensive right now.


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A Taurus Judge firing .410 works good to and legal. I get your point, I don't agree with the SBR bans either.
 
Praxas said:
A Taurus Judge firing .410 works good to and legal. I get your point, I don't agree with the SBR bans either.
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Well it does...but my issue is that that is a revolver. :)


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Doing away with the NFA will take care of that and a few other ignorance-based prohibitions.
 
blackjack50 said:
Well it does...but my issue is that that is a revolver. :)


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That's why I said I got your point. Just mentioning that there are good home protection weapons in the meantime.
 
blackjack50 said:
We really need to push some more attempts to get rid of gun control laws. Personally? I would love to see the ban on SBR's gotten rid of. Especially for pistol calibers. A semi auto SMG would be an excellent home defense platform for someone living in an urban environment. Something along the lines of a PDW. More accurate than a handgun and so on. I don't understand why the NRA isn't on the offensive right now.


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Pro freedom groups are trying to get rid of the idiotic inclusion of suppressors in the unconstitutional NFA. the reason for including suppressors was even more bogus than including automatic weapons and SBRS. the entire 1934 NFA needs to be evaporated
 
TurtleDude said:
Pro freedom groups are trying to get rid of the idiotic inclusion of suppressors in the unconstitutional NFA. the reason for including suppressors was even more bogus than including automatic weapons and SBRS. the entire 1934 NFA needs to be evaporated
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Yea. I agree. I actually have a new topic to bitch about since I am going to Tennessee.


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People fail to realize that Franklin D Roosevelt even wanted handguns added to the gun control act of 1934. I have purposed that they amend the Hearing Protection Act 2017 to repeal the GCA 34, as well as the Hughes Amendment.
 
JLee1977 said:
People fail to realize that Franklin D Roosevelt even wanted handguns added to the gun control act of 1934. I have purposed that they amend the Hearing Protection Act 2017 to repeal the GCA 34, as well as the Hughes Amendment.
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our country would have been far better off if FDR had never been president
 
The national firearms act of 1934 was pass to make firearms mentioned in the law, un-affordable to the average civilian. Most people could not afford the $200 tax in 1934, and if there was a provision to account for inflation, that $200 tax would be near $5000 today! The SBR tax can currently be averted by installing one of the sig braces on a AR pistol. The ban on new machine guns has be circumvented with the invention of the bump fire stocks, and because machine guns are not defined by how fast they can empty a magazine! The NFA of 1934 is obsolete!
 
JLee1977 said:
The national firearms act of 1934 was pass to make firearms mentioned in the law, un-affordable to the average civilian. Most people could not afford the $200 tax in 1934, and if there was a provision to account for inflation, that $200 tax would be near $5000 today! The SBR tax can currently be averted by installing one of the sig braces on a AR pistol. The ban on new machine guns has be circumvented with the invention of the bump fire stocks, and because machine guns are not defined by how fast they can empty a magazine! The NFA of 1934 is obsolete!
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its unconstitutional. any firearm that police departments are issued for use in civilian environments are "in common use" and NOT unusually dangerous
 
In my extreme opinion I believe felons, after they have served their time, paying their debt to society should be allowed to purchase firearms. Background checks are even unconstitutional! What part of "shall not be infringed" do law makers not understand!
 
Praxas said:
A Taurus Judge firing .410 works good to and legal. I get your point, I don't agree with the SBR bans either.
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Agreed. I bought a Remington 870 Express Magnum for home defense. You can almost do a 180 turn in a standard hallway maintaining the gun parallel to the floor. In truth the mag on that is a little longer than the barrel. My wife is more comfy racking that shotgun and aiming/shooting it than she is with pistols. Strange, but true.
 
JLee1977 said:
In my extreme opinion I believe felons, after they have served their time, paying their debt to society should be allowed to purchase firearms. Background checks are even unconstitutional! What part of "shall not be infringed" do law makers not understand!
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I knida gree on the felons being restored rights, But I believe in the punishment needs to fit the crime. How I see it if you committed a non violent crime, you should retain your right to vote and right to firearms. If you committed voter fraud, then your right to vote and only that should be taken away upon serving time,.

For firearms I believe the same, if the person abused that right in an unlawful waym then they can have that right removed, I do hate though the people who went to federal prison for whatever crime like selling a dime bag 20 years ago being told they can not own a firearm, the blanket restriction of rights needs to end and the only rights that should be removed for criminals are the ones they abused unlawfully.
 
JLee1977 said:
In my extreme opinion I believe felons, after they have served their time, paying their debt to society should be allowed to purchase firearms. Background checks are even unconstitutional! What part of "shall not be infringed" do law makers not understand!
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For the most part the ones that want re elected or re appointed to office.
 
beerftw said:
I knida gree on the felons being restored rights, But I believe in the punishment needs to fit the crime. How I see it if you committed a non violent crime, you should retain your right to vote and right to firearms. If you committed voter fraud, then your right to vote and only that should be taken away upon serving time,.

For firearms I believe the same, if the person abused that right in an unlawful waym then they can have that right removed, I do hate though the people who went to federal prison for whatever crime like selling a dime bag 20 years ago being told they can not own a firearm, the blanket restriction of rights needs to end and the only rights that should be removed for criminals are the ones they abused unlawfully.
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Alcohol prohibition didn't work, drug prohibition doesn't work either. I saw legalize it, tax the crap out of it.
 
blackjack50 said:
We really need to push some more attempts to get rid of gun control laws. Personally? I would love to see the ban on SBR's gotten rid of. Especially for pistol calibers. A semi auto SMG would be an excellent home defense platform for someone living in an urban environment. Something along the lines of a PDW. More accurate than a handgun and so on. I don't understand why the NRA isn't on the offensive right now.


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Oh, i live in Texas and here is legal to have the mini Draco
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And short berral shotguns is just that they are considered blunderbuses. Not legal to carry but legal to have and fire at appropriate facilities.

The judge is considered a .45 revolver. That's legal to carry.
 
JLee1977 said:
In my extreme opinion I believe felons, after they have served their time, paying their debt to society should be allowed to purchase firearms. Background checks are even unconstitutional! What part of "shall not be infringed" do law makers not understand!
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I am open to this, but only if all their other rights are restored as well. Particularly the right to vote.
 
Phys251 said:
I am open to this, but only if all their other rights are restored as well. Particularly the right to vote.
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15 years ago a former classmate of mine was lecturing at a local law school about how she was trying to get felons their voting rights back. she was a DNC activist who had also worked for the NAACP. SO I said "do you also support those felons being able to own guns again" she sort of evaded so I said
"Pam is that because you don't believe in anyone being able to own a gun or you don't trust former felons with guns" NO answer. the fact is, many on the left are all in favor of thugs voting but they aren't all that keen about letting them own guns-but I suspect that's because they don't want any one to own guns
 
TurtleDude said:
15 years ago a former classmate of mine was lecturing at a local law school about how she was trying to get felons their voting rights back. she was a DNC activist who had also worked for the NAACP. SO I said "do you also support those felons being able to own guns again" she sort of evaded so I said
"Pam is that because you don't believe in anyone being able to own a gun or you don't trust former felons with guns" NO answer. the fact is, many on the left are all in favor of thugs voting but they aren't all that keen about letting them own guns-but I suspect that's because they don't want any one to own guns
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Turtle, let me ask you two questions:

1. How likely is it that one citizen can cast one vote at the ballot box and, by doing so, kill another human? Just by that one single vote?
2. How likely is it that one citizen can fire one bullet at another human and, by doing so, kill them? Just by that one single fired bullet?
 
JLee1977 said:
In my extreme opinion I believe felons, after they have served their time, paying their debt to society should be allowed to purchase firearms. Background checks are even unconstitutional! What part of "shall not be infringed" do law makers not understand!
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Some infringements are necessary. That's not a part of the constitution the Founders intended to be taken absolutely literally.
 
spud_meister said:
Some infringements are necessary. That's not a part of the constitution the Founders intended to be taken absolutely literally.
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The issue is when someone defines necessary. Was the 18th amendment necessary?
 
Phys251 said:
Turtle, let me ask you two questions:

1. How likely is it that one citizen can cast one vote at the ballot box and, by doing so, kill another human? Just by that one single vote?
2. How likely is it that one citizen can fire one bullet at another human and, by doing so, kill them? Just by that one single fired bullet?
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So felons should be permanently denied access to any tool that can be used for lethal violence?
 
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