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Georgia woman dies due to state abortion laws. Her death was preventable

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In her final hours, Amber Nicole Thurman suffered from a grave infection that her suburban Atlanta hospital was well-equipped to treat. She’d taken abortion pills and encountered a rare complication; she had not expelled all of the fetal tissue from her body. She showed up at Piedmont Henry Hospital in need of a routine procedure to clear it from her uterus, called a dilation and curettage, or D&C.

But just that summer, her state had made performing the procedure a felony, with few exceptions. Any doctor who violated the new Georgia law could be prosecuted and face up to a decade in prison.

The otherwise healthy 28-year-old medical assistant, who had her sights set on nursing school, should not have died, an official state committee recently concluded. Tasked with examining pregnancy-related deaths to improve maternal health, the experts, including 10 doctors, deemed hers “preventable” and said the hospital’s delay in performing the critical procedure had a “large” impact on her fatal outcome.

 
Gonna bet this is just like every other case we have seen thus far, and in fact this procedure was completely legal, and instead hyperbolic leftists made the hospital worried it wasn't.
 
Gonna bet this is just like every other case we have seen thus far, and in fact this procedure was completely legal, and instead hyperbolic leftists made the hospital worried it wasn't.

Hyperbolic leftists are the worst. They're like regular leftists only hyperbolic.

MAGA.
 
Gonna bet this is just like every other case we have seen thus far, and in fact this procedure was completely legal, and instead hyperbolic leftists made the hospital worried it wasn't.

No. Georgia law made the hospital worried it wasn't. Had the SC not overturned RvW, this woman would be alive.
 
So per the article...the woman decided to kill two babies in the name of convenience, ignored the prescribing doctors concerns, experienced the symptoms she was warned about, and then doctors in another state decided to not act to save a life when the consequences of her choices were known...to...what...prove a point?

The Georgia law states that doctors can intervene to save the life of the mother...and if the circumstances were as dire and life threatening as the article claims, then the doctors were negligent.

But really...what this is is nothing more than using an extreme example from 2 years ago to try to equate this to the routine killing of 1.3 million babies in that same year also in the name of convenience. I mean...its good that you FOUND an extreme example...though its also true that since this extreme example, 2.2 million babies have been slaughtered in the name of convenience.
 
I mean...its good that you FOUND an extreme example...though its also true that since this extreme example, 2.2 million babies have been slaughtered in the name of convenience.

And you still havent adopted one single unwanted child Vance, all in the name of convenience.

Really disgusting imo.
 
Gonna bet this is just like every other case we have seen thus far, and in fact this procedure was completely legal, and instead hyperbolic leftists made the hospital worried it wasn't.

You are awful cavalier when it comes to other people's risk.

But that is the point, I suppose. Other than the cruelty. Use vague language in the law, threaten harsh repercussions, and make it so that ordinary people who just want to live their lives keep their heads down. If some woman bleeds out in a parking lot, that is just a bonus.
 
So per the article...the woman decided to kill two babies in the name of convenience, ignored the prescribing doctors concerns, experienced the symptoms she was warned about, and then doctors in another state decided to not act to save a life when the consequences of her choices were known...to...what...prove a point?
No one under any circumstances should have necessary medical care delayed or refused. Doctors in states with strict abortion laws have repeatedly stated that they withhold care for fear of being sued. Abortion laws cause doctors to commit malpractice in order to avoid potential lawsuits, loss of their licenses, and perhaps jail time.
 
No one under any circumstances should have necessary medical care delayed or refused. Doctors in states with strict abortion laws have repeatedly stated that they withhold care for fear of being sued. Abortion laws cause doctors to commit malpractice in order to avoid potential lawsuits, loss of their licenses, and perhaps jail time.
I'm sure activist doctors will make that claim because they like so many other idiot leftists that are really really really really really mad they cant just wantonly kill babies in the name of convenience. And of course they are free to move to states where they CAN freely kill babies and join the people that killed 1.3 million babies in the name of con venience the year after RvW was returned back to the states.
 
I'm sure activist doctors will make that claim because they like so many other idiot leftists that are really really really really really mad they cant just wantonly kill babies in the name of convenience. And of course they are free to move to states where they CAN freely kill babies and join the people that killed 1.3 million babies in the name of con venience the year after RvW was returned back to the states.
Doctors are moving out of states with strict abortion laws, further denying access for health care to women. That means that women with pregnancy complications can't get care and their babies may die. Babies wanted by their parents will die because of abortion laws, the irony should not be lost on you.

Less focus should be spent on abortions and more focus spent on caring for the millions of lives currently needing help and care such as the homeless, mentally ill, and impoverished,
 
Doctors are moving out of states with strict abortion laws, further denying access for health care to women. That means that women with pregnancy complications can't get care and their babies may die. Babies wanted by their parents will die because of abortion laws, the irony should not be lost on you.

Less focus should be spent on abortions and more focus spent on caring for the millions of lives currently needing help and care such as the homeless, mentally ill, and impoverished,
Good for those doctors. And maybe women that think at some point they too are going to want to kill a baby because it might be inconvenient should move also move to one of the states where they can freely kill as many babies in the name of convenience they want. Look...1.3 million people manage to figure out how to kill their baby so they can fit in their bikini for the summer...so it obviously can be done.

Can you explain why a state like California that does per their state constitution protect the right to kill babies on demand for some reason doesnt have the whole homeless, poverty, and mental illness thing figured out?
 
Doctors are moving out of states with strict abortion laws, further denying access for health care to women. That means that women with pregnancy complications can't get care and their babies may die. Babies wanted by their parents will die because of abortion laws, the irony should not be lost on you.

Less focus should be spent on abortions and more focus spent on caring for the millions of lives currently needing help and care such as the homeless, mentally ill, and impoverished,
Doctors and hospitals in stricter states are also afraid or hesitant to perform abortions, fearing legal reprisal. States make conditions for abortion more vague and undermine medical judgement. If abortion was not restricted, such situations like this would not happen or be an issue. Abortion restrictions only hurt women, because cruelty is the point.
 
Gonna bet this is just like every other case we have seen thus far, and in fact this procedure was completely legal, and instead hyperbolic leftists made the hospital worried it wasn't.

Confusion and chaos is baked into these laws to terrorize anyone considering having or administering an abortion.

 
I'm sure activist doctors will make that claim because they like so many other idiot leftists that are really really really really really mad they cant just wantonly kill babies in the name of convenience. And of course they are free to move to states where they CAN freely kill babies and join the people that killed 1.3 million babies in the name of con venience the year after RvW was returned back to the states.

Perhaps, like most Americans, they support abortion and don't see it as killing a child.

 
Perhaps, like most Americans, they support abortion and don't see it as killing a child.
Indeed. Especially since there is no child. Neither is there any rational or legal reason to restrict abortion.
 
But just that summer, her state had made performing the procedure a felony, with few exceptions. Any doctor who violated the new Georgia law could be prosecuted and face up to a decade in prison.

If you agree that the law is legitimate, then she's a victim of democracy. The political left wants doctors controlled by the state, and this is the result. Political regulation of doctors necessarily means that politicians decide which procedures doctors may perform, and which they may not.
 
Good for those doctors. And maybe women that think at some point they too are going to want to kill a baby because it might be inconvenient should move also move to one of the states where they can freely kill as many babies in the name of convenience they want. Look...1.3 million people manage to figure out how to kill their baby so they can fit in their bikini for the summer...so it obviously can be done.

Can you explain why a state like California that does per their state constitution protect the right to kill babies on demand for some reason doesnt have the whole homeless, poverty, and mental illness thing figured out?
Provide stats on how many women abort to fit into a bikini.

Convenience -- making things easy -- is precisely what is needed for women who end a pregnancy either by choice or due to medical necessity.

Regardless of one's personal feelings about abortion, it is not my place or your's or anyone's to decide for another. It is not our place to expect people to move, to uproot their lives, if we don't like their choices. Would you move from a state with no abortion laws to one with abortion laws? Would you repeatedly move from state to state as abortion laws change?
 
Provide stats on how many women abort to fit into a bikini.

Convenience -- making things easy -- is precisely what is needed for women who end a pregnancy either by choice or due to medical necessity.

Regardless of one's personal feelings about abortion, it is not my place or your's or anyone's to decide for another. It is not our place to expect people to move, to uproot their lives, if we don't like their choices. Would you move from a state with no abortion laws to one with abortion laws? Would you repeatedly move from state to state as abortion laws change?
Your second statements resolves your first.

It IS absolutely appropriate to be concerned about killing babies as nothing more than a means of birth control. the easy acceptance of the butchering of 1.3 million babies a year in the name of convenience devalues life. You claim to care about the homeless...the impoverished, the mentally ill...yet you champion killing an unborn baby. Thats.............odd.
 
Your second statements resolves your first.

It IS absolutely appropriate to be concerned about killing babies as nothing more than a means of birth control. the easy acceptance of the butchering of 1.3 million babies a year in the name of convenience devalues life. You claim to care about the homeless...the impoverished, the mentally ill...yet you champion killing an unborn baby. Thats.............odd.
Nope. You should provide data on bikini abortions but you won't because you can't.

I support a woman's right to choose to butcher (as you describe it) a potential human being. Have you considered what would happen to 1.3 million unwanted babies a year?
 
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